What if the Lights Go Off?

Go down

What if the Lights Go Off?

Post by ReadyMom on Wed Sep 26, 2018 11:41 am



What if the lights go out?
http://www.boston.com/lifestyle/articles/2012/02/05/what_if_the_lights_go_out/?page=full

(SNIPS):


  • We don’t pay attention to power except when it annoys us -

  • But we’d better all begin paying more attention. The grid, for a host of reasons, may be ill-equipped to meet all the enormous challenges it faces. For so long, the market for doomsday scenarios of powerlessness has been cornered by survivalists prattling on about Mayan calendars and end of days.

  • If our society is more reliant on power than at any time in history - without it, we’ve got no commerce, no communications, no clean water - and if power becomes less reliable in the future, the big question is: Will we be able to hack it?

  • THE TROUBLE with the future of power isn’t that there is one big problem that could croak us. It’s that there are a host of them, any one of which could croak us. Let’s group them into three categories.


    • Bucket No. 1 involves what the insurance-policy fine print calls “Acts of God.’’ Here we’re talking about all those “storms of the century’’ that seem to be arriving with unsettling frequency. Although people can debate the reasons behind it, by now the trend is clear, says Tierney, a partner with Boston-based Analysis Group. “Extreme weather events will be more common.’’

    • Let’s call Bucket No. 2 “Acts of Terrorists.’’ Among these, there’s the old-fashioned physical attack on the bulk power system, either at its source of generation or somewhere along its transmission route. There’s the newfangled cyber attack on the computers controlling our interconnected grid. And then there’s the otherworldly-sounding attack by an electromagnetic pulse, or EMP, weapon.

    • Finally, Bucket No. 3 is the “Ailing Grid’’ itself. In many places, the infrastructure is as old and stooped as a pensioner.



_________________
Anything I post may NOT be used for commercial purposes or any type of 'For-Profit' distribution.
ReadyMom
ReadyMom
Admin

Posts : 1766
Join date : 2018-08-11

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: What if the Lights Go Off?

Post by TRex2 on Mon Dec 24, 2018 5:41 pm

Well, they are working on problems 2 and 3, but it looks to me like they have a long way to go.

I agree with your statements that we need to pay more attention to it, and how dependent we are on it.

I think the most we can hope for, in any region, is about 6% of us paying attention and preparing for the worst. I wonder what we can do to get those local to us to pay attention, without making them think we are crazy.

TRex2

Posts : 64
Join date : 2018-11-14
Location : SE Corner of the Ozark Redoubt

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: What if the Lights Go Off?

Post by Cinnamon on Mon Dec 24, 2018 7:33 pm

I think rural people pay more attention than city folk. We're used to the lights going out, especially in storms and in winter. Almost everyone around me doesn't call themselves preppers, but they're prepared for lots of things, including having extra food, tools, and other needs. They also have a variety of skills to fix things that may go wrong.

Cinnamon

Posts : 155
Join date : 2018-08-18

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: What if the Lights Go Off?

Post by ReadyMom on Wed Jan 02, 2019 2:02 pm

When the Power Grid Fails – 10 Things You Need to Prepare
https://commonsensehome.com/when-the-power-grid-fails/

  The power grid is one of those things that most of us take for granted, but it's time to acknowledge that it's getting older, reaching capacity and under attack. In the article “Bracing for a big power grid attack: ‘One is too many'“, USA Today states “About once every four days, part of the nation's power grid — a system whose failure could leave millions in the dark — is struck by a cyber or physical attack.” Without a preparedness blueprint in place, most of us would be in bad shape with an extended grid outage.

In this post, we'll discuss why the power grid goes down, and how to prepare . . .    ---CONTINUED---

_________________
Anything I post may NOT be used for commercial purposes or any type of 'For-Profit' distribution.
ReadyMom
ReadyMom
Admin

Posts : 1766
Join date : 2018-08-11

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: What if the Lights Go Off?

Post by ReadyMom on Sat Jan 05, 2019 3:54 pm

When the Power Grid Fails – 10 Things You Need to Prepare
https://commonsensehome.com/when-the-power-grid-fails/

The power grid is one of those things that most of us take for granted, but it's time to acknowledge that it's getting older, reaching capacity and under attack. In the article “Bracing for a big power grid attack: ‘One is too many'“, USA Today states “About once every four days, part of the nation's power grid — a system whose failure could leave millions in the dark — is struck by a cyber or physical attack.” Without a preparedness blueprint in place, most of us would be in bad shape with an extended grid outage.

In this post, we'll discuss why the power grid goes down, and how to prepare . . . ---CONTINUED---

_________________
Anything I post may NOT be used for commercial purposes or any type of 'For-Profit' distribution.
ReadyMom
ReadyMom
Admin

Posts : 1766
Join date : 2018-08-11

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: What if the Lights Go Off?

Post by keebler on Sat Jan 19, 2019 8:00 am

my Bug out Location that i lived at I was on the end of the line 20 miles out Constant brown outs.. so 95 % of my lights there are solar/battery I did have HW solar panels to pre heat water but finally to many leaks & pump burnouts ..I live in the city now. so it will never get fixed. But I have some solar here too.a 20 watt on the shed & 3 LED's lighting it off a lawnmower start battery.
keebler

keebler

Posts : 22
Join date : 2019-01-10
Location : richmond,va area

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: What if the Lights Go Off?

Post by rick1 on Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:05 am

I'm about as prepared as anybody can be for a power outage, at least I think I am. I live in an area that the power goes out at least several times a year, mostly do to weather.

I have 3-165 watt solar panels that charge 2 separate battery banks for the house, I have 1-45 watt solar panel that charges a battery bank in the garage. I have a 100 watt solar system in the faraday cage. Several generators and 150 gallon of gas on hand.

_________________
''EVERYDAY'S A HOLIDAY, EVERY MEAL'S A FEAST, SEMPER FI DO OR DIE''

rick1

Posts : 434
Join date : 2018-08-14

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: What if the Lights Go Off?

Post by keebler on Sat Jan 19, 2019 12:23 pm

sounds great. Glad your prepared.
best friend installing a back up Dual fuel 7K generator for me.but will be Manual. connect mostly for barn ,shed, well & septic pump. for emergency's
keeb.

keebler

Posts : 22
Join date : 2019-01-10
Location : richmond,va area

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: What if the Lights Go Off?

Post by rick1 on Sat Jan 19, 2019 12:46 pm

My septic doesn't have a pump, I have a 1940's homemade version. I have a shallow well and my pump is in the basement, 110 volt, my battery bank will handle that.

My biggest generator is 5800 watts, so that'll run my big freezer and refrigerator. The hot water tank will be run on an as needed basis in the summer or we'll go swimming in one of the ponds, winter water will be heated on the wood burners.

I also have a 3200 watt generator and 2 of the harbor freight 900 watt (2 cycle) generators. Have had them for years and they sip gas.

I'd like to get a dual fuel one, but I got too many generators now.

_________________
''EVERYDAY'S A HOLIDAY, EVERY MEAL'S A FEAST, SEMPER FI DO OR DIE''

rick1

Posts : 434
Join date : 2018-08-14

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: What if the Lights Go Off?

Post by ReadyMom on Sat Jan 19, 2019 12:56 pm

We live on wetlands. It literally goes right under our sunroom. We have a big sumpump that has a battery back up. One year, the battery leaked an invisible gas-like residue that collected under the basement stairs (where it's located). It did NOT set off our 'regular' smoke/carbon detectors ... but our house-alarm system is so sensitive that it picked it up and the fire department were there in a flash. They told us that the house could have exploded Shocked . The carbon monoxide detector connected to the alarm system paid for itself that day for the rest of our life. It's so sensitive that it picked up a non-monoxide gas! We watch our battery VERY carefully, now.

Just something to think about & remember if you have a battery back up for a pump.

_________________
Anything I post may NOT be used for commercial purposes or any type of 'For-Profit' distribution.
ReadyMom
ReadyMom
Admin

Posts : 1766
Join date : 2018-08-11

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: What if the Lights Go Off?

Post by keebler on Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:14 pm

Wet cell batterys give off Hydrogen,(explosive) when charged Fast or large discharge can actually Boil the sulphuric acid. (sulfer smell) I perfer the small 18 AH 12 volt gel cell batterys for safety. about $35.oo on the net. I have converted (2) wall lamps to 12 V with 7 watt LED's, alligator clamps on the color coded wire for hookups. Out at my Bug out I have a second well 75 ft--- i bought a 12 volt deep well pump... that's my emergency pump when Grid is down. i can cross connect using a washing machine hose -Double female fittings. each well have spigot's on them

keebler

Posts : 22
Join date : 2019-01-10
Location : richmond,va area

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: What if the Lights Go Off?

Post by Dave58 on Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:22 am

https://freebeacon.com/national-security/china-russia-building-super-emp-bombs-for-blackout-warfare/

I guess we will start adjusting our preps. If the government is willing to talk about it its a pretty fair bet the other guys all ready have the weapons.....



_________________
"Doing what I can with what I got" Mr. Burt Gummer
Dave58
Dave58

Posts : 64
Join date : 2018-09-23
Age : 59

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: What if the Lights Go Off?

Post by rick1 on Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:03 am

Hummm, if true, really don't look good on those maps for anybody. Nuclear Alert

_________________
''EVERYDAY'S A HOLIDAY, EVERY MEAL'S A FEAST, SEMPER FI DO OR DIE''

rick1

Posts : 434
Join date : 2018-08-14

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: What if the Lights Go Off?

Post by TRex2 on Thu Jan 24, 2019 12:49 pm

I really like Bill Gertz as an author, but he isn't a scientist or nuclear engineer. I don't think he pretends to be, either. Sadly, most of the people on the Commission to Assess the Threat to the United States weren't nuclear engineers, but they put together a report that makes people think they are.

Almost all of what is in that EMP report is accurate enough for consumption by the general public or congresscritters, but if you are preparing for survival, you need more precise information than what is in it.

The definitive papers written on the subject were written by Conrad L Longmire, in the 50's through the 80's, but were classified until recently. They were unclassified before the Commission to Assess the Threat to the United States did its studies, but they chose to use less accurate, but easier to understand materials when they did their studies.

I began writing about EMP on another forum, but my work there was lost when it was rebuilt. I will begin, over the next few weeks, to write on the subject again.

(I will start a separate thread for that.)

TRex2

Posts : 64
Join date : 2018-11-14
Location : SE Corner of the Ozark Redoubt

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: What if the Lights Go Off?

Post by NJMike on Thu Jan 24, 2019 4:17 pm

@TRex2, You had great information on the other forum. Too bad that got lost in the forum changeover. Hope to read more here when I can pop in.

NJMike

Posts : 8
Join date : 2018-09-24

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: What if the Lights Go Off?

Post by TRex2 on Thu Jan 24, 2019 4:40 pm

NJMike wrote:@TRex2, You had great information on the other forum. Too bad that got lost in the forum changeover.  Hope to read more here when I can pop in.
I am in the process of reviewing all the material again. I found the commission updated all of their reports, so I am going over them all again (the ones I saw before were dated 2008).

As I said, I am going to open a new thread to discuss EMP (man made) and CME (Solar induced) events in more detail.

TRex2

Posts : 64
Join date : 2018-11-14
Location : SE Corner of the Ozark Redoubt

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: What if the Lights Go Off?

Post by Cinnamon on Fri Jan 25, 2019 4:07 pm

Thanks TRex, for helping us rebuild what was lost.

Cinnamon

Posts : 155
Join date : 2018-08-18

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: What if the Lights Go Off?

Post by oldasrocks on Sat Mar 09, 2019 6:58 pm

The lights are off down here. We had 60mph winds today which knocked a line down somewhere. Whole area is out.

Why Prepare? For stuff like this. Our genny started 60 seconds after the outage.

oldasrocks

Posts : 37
Join date : 2019-02-27

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: What if the Lights Go Off?

Post by Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

Back to top

- Similar topics

 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum