Discussion & News-USA -- (NOT CASES)-February 2020

by Dave58 Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:49 pm

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/new-virus-prompts-u-s-health-officials-begin-airport-screenings-n1117911

Looks like it might be on its way here.. Just might be worth watching.. PopCorn

by **ReadyMom** Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:33 am

RM's NOTE: Below has NOT been confirmed, yet. But passengers were coming from China:

HatTip2

Hat Tip to Treyfish, FluTrackers:

Several passengers coming off the United flight from Shanghai say 2 people were removed from their flight in Chicago because they were sick. Reaching out to Chicago health officials to see if this is connected to #coronavirus Passengers say they were screened in China. @tmj4 https://twitter.com/TMJ4Tom/status/1219769697664671746?s=19

by **ReadyMom** Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:48 am

Hat Tip to John West Blog "Daily Big Threats":

The US plans to force passengers to change routes, and potentially redirect entire flights, to make sure they get screened for the Wuhan virus
https://www.businessinsider.com/us-plans-redirect-plane-passengers-screened-for-wuhan-coronavirus-2020-1

The US is making plans to force passengers from Wuhan, China, to change flights — and even reroute flights entirely if necessary — to ensure they get screened for the coronavirus spreading throughout the Chinese city.

(SNIP) ... In a media briefing following the announcement of the US case, Dr. Martin Cetron, the director for the Division of Global Migration and Quarantine at the Centers for Disease Control, outlined a comprehensive "funneling approach" to make sure every traveler from Wuhan makes it to one of five US airports that can screen them.

by **ReadyMom** Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:01 am

Wuhan Coronavirus Hits the US: What Preppers Need to Know
https://www.theorganicprepper.com/wuhan-coronavirus-what-to-know/

(SNIP) ... This is a developing threat, and one that we need to keep an eye on. I expect information regarding this virus to change and be updated frequently on sites such as the CDC, WHO, and CIDRAP.

Here is what we know right now.

by **ReadyMom** Sat Jan 25, 2020 9:45 am

penguinsix, FluTrackers::

Coronavirus outbreak: US plans to evacuate Americans from Wuhan
https://nypost.com/2020/01/25/us-plans-to-evacuate-americans-from-wuhan-amid-coronavirus-outbreak/

The government is arranging a charter flight Sunday to get citizens and diplomats out of the epidemic-stricken city, the Wall Street Journal reported.

by **ReadyMom** Sat Jan 25, 2020 5:53 pm

I’m out and can’t easily post on my phone. Just read that us embassy is being evacuated in China. Can someone confirm and post a link please.

by Drinkthekoolaid Sat Jan 25, 2020 6:00 pm

https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-plans-to-evacuate-citizens-from-epidemic-stricken-chinese-city-11579951256

by TRex2 Sat Jan 25, 2020 6:03 pm

I am not an expert on Embassies vs Consulates, but here is what I found.
American Evacuations:
https://www.thedailystar.net/southeast-asia/news/us-evacuate-citizens-wuhan-china-1858906

AMERICAN citizens and diplomats living in coronavirus ground zero Wuhan are to be evacuated on a special charter flight, it has been reported.

Roughly 1,000 US citizens are thought to be in Wuhan and the consulate there is reaching out to the ones it knows to offer them a seat on the plane.

https://fox40.com/2020/01/25/us-arranges-charter-flight-to-evacuate-diplomats-from-china/

The Wall Street Journal first reported the planned evacuation.

According to the Journal, the US consulate in Wuhan is reaching out to the Americans it is aware of in the country to offer them a spot on the flight.

The flight, which seats about 230 people, will include diplomats from the US consulate in Wuhan, as well as Americans and their families, the Journal reported. The person told the newspaper that any available seats might be offered to non-US citizens and diplomats of other nations.

The flight will have medical personnel aboard to treat anyone with the virus and make sure it is contained, according to the Journal.

Passengers will be asked to foot the bill for the flight, which is expected to cost much more than a commercial flight from China to the US, the Journal reported.

The newspaper reported that the United States also plans to temporarily close its consulate in Wuhan.

It is unknown where the plane plans to fly to in the US, the Journal noted.

Roughly 1,000 American citizens are believed to be in Wuhan, according to the Journal.

On Thursday, the US State Department ordered non-emergency personnel and their families to depart the Hubei Province of China, of which Wuhan is the provincial capital, due to the coronavirus.

by **ReadyMom** Sun Jan 26, 2020 10:08 am

I don't think this is necessary yet.

HatTip2

Hat Tip to John West's Daily Big Threat Blog:

Florida Sen. Rick Scott: ‘We have to get serious about the threat of coronavirus coming from China’
http://outbreaknewstoday.com/florida-sen-rick-scott-we-have-to-get-serious-about-the-threat-of-coronavirus-coming-from-china-65460/

Scott said, “We have to get serious about the threat of coronavirus coming from China. I don’t trust Communist China to coordinate in a transparent and efficient manner when it comes to combatting the treat of the virus, so we have to do everything we can to protect Americans. Today, I’m calling on the Administration to declare a national public health emergency to stop the coronavirus from spreading within the United States.

by oldasrocks Sun Jan 26, 2020 10:10 am

Especially when they say you can spread the disease 10 days before symptoms appear.

by Drinkthekoolaid Sun Jan 26, 2020 10:17 am

oldasrocks wrote:Especially when they say you can spread the disease 10 days before symptoms appear.

This.

This is what will make containing the virus extremely difficult.

The virus will be spreading in places and getting established before we realize it's even there.

by Dave58 Sun Jan 26, 2020 10:31 am

ReadyMom wrote:I don't think this is necessary yet.

Hat Tip to John West's Daily Big Threat Blog:

Florida Sen. Rick Scott: ‘We have to get serious about the threat of coronavirus coming from China’
http://outbreaknewstoday.com/florida-sen-rick-scott-we-have-to-get-serious-about-the-threat-of-coronavirus-coming-from-china-65460/

Scott said, “We have to get serious about the threat of coronavirus coming from China. I don’t trust Communist China to coordinate in a transparent and efficient manner when it comes to combatting the treat of the virus, so we have to do everything we can to protect Americans. Today, I’m calling on the Administration to declare a national public health emergency to stop the coronavirus from spreading within the United States.

I think it is a very necessary thing....

I am just a coffee drinking post reading person with no special schooling, but I do know that China is lying thru their teeth I just feel it ... They are on You-Tube asking for help with donations when is the last time that happened ???

The only reason they haven't declared an emergency here is because of the panic it might start.
I am not an alarmist or doomsayer, but i'm telling you if we wait until its got a foot hold here we are screwed..

Something else they are flying the people into SF from China why there ??? Are they wanting to clean up their homeless problem ??? I know that sounds harsh but lets face our government is run by pretty harsh people...

I didn't mean to high-jack this thread or go on a rant.... Now back to my coffee

by rick1 Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:08 am

Senator Chuck Schumer wants HHS to declare a health emergency in the U.S. to release funding, before it becomes a pandemic:

https://abcnews.go.com/US/3rd-us-case-coronavirus-confirmed-death-toll-rises/story?id=68541719

by **ReadyMom** Mon Jan 27, 2020 10:26 am

Hat Tip to John West's Daily Big Threat Blog:

We need to prepare for US outbreak of Wuhan coronavirus
https://www.aei.org/op-eds/we-need-to-prepare-for-us-outbreak-of-wuhan-coronavirus/

(SNIP):

... Right now, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has a test that works by detecting parts of the virus’ genome in the blood. CDC is working with the Food and Drug Administration to make this type of test more widely available to public health labs throughout the U.S. The agencies are working to advance the test under an authorization for emergency use. This is a regulatory designation that accelerates the normal FDA clearance process during public health emergencies.

The CDC test is fast. It can diagnose a sample in a few hours once a blood specimen reaches a designated lab. The test is likely to be given primarily to state and local public health laboratories.

by oldasrocks Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:52 pm

Forget the Koolaid!! Buy Jack as you are going to need it.

As said above "14 day incubation period" 300 or so people arrived from china in californicate last week.

by TRex2 Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:25 pm

oldasrocks wrote:Forget the Koolaid!! Buy Jack as you are going to need it.

I thought everybody had some distilled spirits in their pharma supplies Cool

As said above "14 day incubation period" 300 or so people arrived from china in californicate last week.

Well, first we need to understand that the MSM are just regurgitating what they heard. They probably don't understand any of this. Frankly, I think the same thing applies to the CDC spokespersons. They just count on the science guys to tell them what to say, and then out of ignorance and political posturing, they edit and massage texts that they do not know the meaning of.

Of course, the ABC article should have said they do not have any evidence that the virus is spreading in the US.

by TRex2 Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:30 pm

Dave58 wrote:
Don't kid yourself this is about the all mighty dollar and the stock market because the government don't give 2 shits about us or people like us...

They care exactly as much as the taxes you pay.
If you pay $2000 a year in taxes then they care $2000 worth.

That is about a half hour pay, in the District of Corruption Laugh-Roll

by oldasrocks Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:26 pm

Today 105 dead and 4515 cases. a

Our main problem is others to stay with us. Most of our old group have gone from the area. Anyone want to spend some quality time in Missouri?

90 flights a day arriving from china in californicate but their Health Dept says they can handle it. They have no kits to test people yet.

by **ReadyMom** Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:46 pm

oldasrocks wrote:
Our main problem is others to stay with us. Most of our old group have gone from the area. Anyone want to spend some quality time in Missouri?

Do you still have your poop cannon? If not, that could be a deal breaker Laughing

by oldasrocks Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:56 pm

Remember I designed that for apartment dwellers to dispose of waste. It morphed into a poop catapult. I built one and tested it when we had that Gettogether a few yrs ago. Worked fine. We can fling poop 40 yards.

by oldasrocks Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:58 pm

I built an outhouse for us to use. We have plenty of room and plenty of trees to pee on.

by TRex2 Tue Jan 28, 2020 5:38 am

oldasrocks wrote:...
Our main problem is others to stay with us. Most of our old group have gone from the area. Anyone want to spend some quality time in Missouri?
...

Hey, I am just South of you, in AR. Not far from Bull Shoals Lake and the Buffalo River areas. Got my own plans for riding this out, though. I don't think it will be as big of a problem here, as it will be in places like Seattle or Baltimore.

by oldasrocks Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:54 am

Time will tell. Panic and hysteria will kill more people that the actual flu. It's better to plan for the worst though.

by **ReadyMom** Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:19 am

Hat Tip to 'Missouriwatcher', FluTrackers:

Bush Airport among 20 U.S. airports to begin screening for coronavirus; quarantine facilities in place
https://www.click2houston.com/news/local/2020/01/28/iah-among-20-us-airports-to-begin-screening-for-coronavirus-quarantine-facilities-in-place/

Today, 09:57 AM
According to Click2Houston.com, CDC has quarantine facilities in place at 20 ports of entry, including Chicago O'Hare, Los Angeles, San Francisco, San Diego, Seattle, Anchorage, Honolulu, Boston, New York, Philadelphia, Washington, Atlanta, Miami and Houston.

by **ReadyMom** Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:29 am

Hat Tip to John West's Daily Big Threat Blog:

U.S. warns travelers to ‘reconsider’ trips to China — here’s how airlines and cruise lines are responding to the coronavirus
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-us-is-warning-travelers-to-reconsider-trips-to-china-heres-how-coronavirus-is-affecting-travel-plans-2020-01-28?mod=moneyish

United, Delta and American Airlines are waiving some cancellation fees; some cruise lines are canceling trips ---CONTINUED---

by **ReadyMom** Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:46 am

Hat Tip to John West's Daily Big Threat Blog:

Surgical masks selling out across US amid fears over coronavirus
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/surgical-masks-selling-out-across-us-amid-fears-over-coronavirus/ar-BBZo06f?li=BBnbcA1&ocid=iehp

The BBC reported Monday that stores have been selling out of the masks in Washington, D.C., and Seattle, with stockpiling and runs on stores reported in New York and Los Angeles.

(SNIP) ... However, the rush of sales may come at no benefit for buyers: Researchers dispute whether the masks are effective when worn in public, and argue that they are more effective to prevent the transmission of the disease from those who already have it. ---CONTINUED---

by oldasrocks Tue Jan 28, 2020 2:54 pm

As we all know masks are a waste of time for several reasons. First is people do no wear them properly. Second, people take them off in crowded, probably infected area to eat or drink. Third, the masks worn do not protect against viruses but were made to use for dust and other large particle debris.

The biggest factor is people assume they are safer wearing the masks so go places and do things they should not be doing and increase their exposure.

It is similar to people thinking if they have a condom in their back pocket it insures safe sex.

by **ReadyMom** Tue Jan 28, 2020 6:00 pm

Hat Tip to FluWiki Forum, Facebook:

San Francisco Activates Emergency Operations Center Preparing For Coronavirus
https://www.dailywire.com/news/san-francisco-activates-emergency-operations-center-preparing-for-coronavirus?fbclid=IwAR182iGoFMBI4NSnaJ2BWgWSOfppAXeOTF13MZKB7a0vh6YlEaNK2lxE5Ok

With multiple confirmed cases of the coronavirus in the United States, including two in California, the city of San Francisco has activated its emergency operations center in preparation for a potential outbreak.

While there have been no reported cases of the virus in the city, Zuckerberg San Francisco General Hospital is “on standby, with isolation rooms prepared for coronavirus patients if needed,” Fox News-affiliate KTVU reported Monday. ---CONTINUED---

by **ReadyMom** Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:20 pm

Hat Tip to 'Shiloh', FluTrackers:

Officials say most Americans not at risk of coronavirus
http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/01/officials-say-most-americans-not-risk-coronavirus

Filed Under:
2019-nCoV; Coronavirus
Stephanie Soucheray | News Reporter | CIDRAP News
| Jan 28, 2020

The top US public health officials today said the novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV) outbreak that began in Wuhan, China, is not a threat to the average American citizen.

"Americans should know this is a potentially very serious public health threat, but Americans should not worry for their own safety," said Alex Azar, secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS).

Azar was joined by Robert Redfield, MD, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), Nancy Messonnier, MD, director of CDC's National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Disease, and Anthony Fauci, MD, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, part of the National Institutes of Health.

Azar began and ended the press conference by imploring the Chinese government to accept the US's offer to send experts from the CDC to aid in the response efforts.

"We are urging China, more cooperation and transparency are the most effective options you can take for an effective response," Azar said. Azar said the United States first offered assistance on Jan 6, and most recently reiterated the offer yesterday.

During the press conference, Azar was alerted to the news that China had agreed to allow a team of international experts led by the World Health Organization to come to China to work on the virus, which he welcomed.

No ongoing spread among US cases

All officials at the press conference offered assurances about the US response to the five confirmed 2019-nCoV cases identified in Washington state, Illinois, Arizona, and California. So far, none of the cases have resulted in secondary transmission, they said, and all patients have cooperated with the CDC in gathering as much information as possible about the illness.

"We have no evidence of human-to-human transmission in the United States," said Messonnier. "All the cases have been directly transmitted from China."

Redfield said the CDC decided to increase surveillance efforts in US airports. Now 20—up from 5—of the nation's largest and busiest airports will practice enhanced screening of passengers traveling from China. Late yesterday the CDC also issued a level 3 travel advisory, suggesting US citizens avoid all nonessential travel to anywhere in China.

Redfield and Messonnier said an important part of the enhanced screening will be educating passengers to look for possible symptoms of 2019-nCoV, as patients may be asymptomatic at the time of travel. The experts urged both travelers and their physicians to take precautions if an upper respiratory illness and fever follow a recent trip to China.

Throughout the press conference, the officials referenced past experience in Asia with coronavirus diseases SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome) and MERS (Middle East respiratory syndrome), and avian flu, suggesting the US has the tools to help combat the new coronavirus outbreak.

Symptomatic transmission as likely driver

Fauci explained that China was currently using both the antiviral remdesivir and the antiretroviral drug Kaletra (lopinavir and ritonavir) on a compassionate basis on some nCoV patients. Both treatments, used against Ebola and HIV, respectively, are unproven against the novel coronavirus.

Fauci said monoclonal antibody–based therapies will be the next step in developing a possible treatment for the virus, as will a phase 1 clinical trial of a potential vaccine.

He also addressed concerns about whether the virus could be easily spread by asymptomatic carriers. "The driver of respiratory outbreaks is symptomatic people, not asymptomatic carriers," said Fauci.

FDA launches nCoV site

In related news, the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) announced yesterday it was taking key actions to develop nCoV countermeasures.

The FDA also launched a landing page, or website, for 2019-nCoV information.
"We are committed to keeping the American people informed as we prepare and respond to emerging public health threats, including the novel coronavirus," said FDA Deputy Commissioner of Policy, Legislation, and International Affairs Anna Abram, in a press release. "The agency is committed to ensuring safe and effective medical countermeasures are available as quickly as possible to protect public health."

The FDA said the first step will be developing diagnostic tests that will quickly identify the coronavirus. Such tests would likely be able to benefit from the FDA's Emergency Use Authorization pathway, and developers are urged to follow the links and guidelines provided by the FDA.

by **ReadyMom** Tue Jan 28, 2020 9:59 pm

White House tells airlines it may suspend all China-US flights amid coronavirus outbreak
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/28/white-house-discussing-china-travel-restrictions-amid-coronavirus-outbreak.html?fbclid=IwAR29FCS0N9bOo2P0B4y9_jyOraAscMLD60AH32ySM34MPva2p5H4gC3TTT8

White House officials have told U.S. airlines the Trump administration is considering suspending flights from China to the U.S. amid an escalating outbreak of a new coronavirus that has infected thousands of people across the world, people familiar with the matter said.

(SNIP) ...
White House officials called executives at major U.S. carriers on Tuesday, telling them that a temporary ban on China flights is on the table, according to people familiar with those conversations. As of Tuesday evening, the Trump administration had not taken that step and there was no guarantee that it would do so. ---CONTINUED---

by **ReadyMom** Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:36 pm

Hat Tip to 'Missouriwatcher', FluTrackers:

AP Source: 240 Americans evacuated from Chinese city at the center of virus outbreak...
https://apnews.com/e3f13d6f778eae1dd6a062499ed889e7

SNIP ... The U.S. government chartered the plane to fly out diplomats from the U.S. Consulate in Wuhan, where the latest coronavirus outbreak started, and other U.S. citizens. The plane will make a refueling stop in Alaska before flying on to Ontario, California, the U.S. Embassy in China has said.

by oldasrocks Wed Jan 29, 2020 6:24 am

ReadyMom wrote:[b]White House tells airlines it may suspend all China-US flights amid coronavirus outbreak

Isn't this the proverbial closing the barn door after the horses get out? 90 flights a day have been landing in California.

by Drinkthekoolaid Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:20 am

oldasrocks wrote:
ReadyMom wrote:[b]White House tells airlines it may suspend all China-US flights amid coronavirus outbreak[/

Isn't this the proverbial closing the barn door after the horses get out? 90 flights a day have been landing in California.

It is.

But, better late than never. The more people we keep out the better. The slower it will spread here.

by rick1 Wed Jan 29, 2020 10:30 am

oldasrocks wrote:
ReadyMom wrote:[b]White House tells airlines it may suspend all China-US flights amid coronavirus outbreak

Isn't this the proverbial closing the barn door after the horses get out? 90 flights a day have been landing in California.

They couldn't have picked a better state, unless it was down state NY.

by **ReadyMom** Wed Jan 29, 2020 11:02 am

So, it's all over the news about the plane that is returning Americans home from China. They keep talking about how well they have been 'monitored'. My question: If folks a NOT symptomatic what exactly are they monitoring?

Americans evacuated from China virus zone pass health test
https://apnews.com/e3f13d6f778eae1dd6a062499ed889e7

A plane evacuating 201 Americans from the Chinese city at the center of the virus outbreak continued Wednesday on to Southern California after everyone aboard passed a health screening test in Anchorage, where the aircraft had stopped to refuel.

by **ReadyMom** Wed Jan 29, 2020 4:53 pm

Hat Tip to 'Rose', FluTrackers:

American University, Georgetown University & University of Maryland suspend medical exchange & or cancel programs. Attempts are being made to bring students home immediately.
Here's How The D.C. Region Is Responding To Coronavirus
https://wamu.org/story/20/01/29/heres-how-the-d-c-region-is-responding-to-coronavirus/

Students in the region are being recalled from China and new screenings are being implemented at Dulles International Airport as officials take steps to prevent an outbreak. United Airlines announced Tuesday that it will cancel some flights between Dulles and Beijing, citing a “significant decline in demand.”

Georgetown University announced it was implementing a temporary ban on university-sponsored and university-related travel to China for faculty, staff and students. The university also is requesting that all of its community members in China make immediate travel arrangements to return home or to the university. American University (which holds the license for WAMU) made a similar request Tuesday after the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) raised its travel warning for the country.

The University of Maryland told WAMU that all of its study abroad programs in China this spring have been canceled. ---CONTINUED---

by oldasrocks Wed Jan 29, 2020 4:59 pm

ReadyMom wrote:So, it's all over the news about the plane that is returning Americans home from China. They keep talking about how well they have been 'monitored'. My question: If folks a NOT symptomatic what exactly are they monitoring?

Americans evacuated from China virus zone pass health test
https://apnews.com/e3f13d6f778eae1dd6a062499ed889e7

A plane evacuating 201 Americans from the Chinese city at the center of the virus outbreak continued Wednesday on to Southern California after everyone aboard passed a health screening test in Anchorage, where the aircraft had stopped to refuel.

A better question is why haven't all the arriving china planes been monitored?

by rick1 Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:50 am

oldasrocks wrote:
ReadyMom wrote:So, it's all over the news about the plane that is returning Americans home from China. They keep talking about how well they have been 'monitored'. My question: If folks a NOT symptomatic what exactly are they monitoring?

Americans evacuated from China virus zone pass health test
https://apnews.com/e3f13d6f778eae1dd6a062499ed889e7

A plane evacuating 201 Americans from the Chinese city at the center of the virus outbreak continued Wednesday on to Southern California after everyone aboard passed a health screening test in Anchorage, where the aircraft had stopped to refuel.

A better question is why haven't all the arriving china planes been monitored?

That's nothing OAR, they are keeping those people for only 3 days and it's only voluntary if they want to stay. What the H_LL?

That doctor on FOX news (Siegel I think), says the U.S. needs to keep their eye more on the flu that has killed over 8,000 so far in the U.S. instead of this chinese virus.

by oldasrocks Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:47 am

[quote="rick1"]

oldasrocks wrote:
ReadyMom wrote:So, it's all over the news about the plane that is returning Americans home from China. They keep talking about how well they have been 'monitored'. My question: If folks a NOT symptomatic what exactly are they monitoring?

Americans evacuated from China virus zone pass health test
https://apnews.com/e3f13d6f778eae1dd6a062499ed889e7

A plane evacuating 201 Americans from the Chinese city at the center of the virus outbreak continued Wednesday on to Southern California after everyone aboard passed a health screening test in Anchorage, where the aircraft had stopped to refuel.

A better question is why haven't all the arriving china planes been monitored?

That's nothing OAR, they are keeping those people for only 3 days and it's only voluntary if they want to stay. What the H_LL?

You are missing the point. I was referring to the 90 planes that have been landing every day from china in California airports. The california health dept says they have things well in hand and no cases so far. Then go on to say that they do not have any test kits for this. Ding, Ding Ding. All this talk about the one plane ignoring the daily 90 ones.

by rick1 Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:59 am

oldasrocks wrote:
rick1 wrote:
oldasrocks wrote:
ReadyMom wrote:So, it's all over the news about the plane that is returning Americans home from China. They keep talking about how well they have been 'monitored'. My question: If folks a NOT symptomatic what exactly are they monitoring?

Americans evacuated from China virus zone pass health test
https://apnews.com/e3f13d6f778eae1dd6a062499ed889e7

A plane evacuating 201 Americans from the Chinese city at the center of the virus outbreak continued Wednesday on to Southern California after everyone aboard passed a health screening test in Anchorage, where the aircraft had stopped to refuel.

A better question is why haven't all the arriving china planes been monitored?

That's nothing OAR, they are keeping those people for only 3 days and it's only voluntary if they want to stay. What the H_LL?

You are missing the point. I was referring to the 90 planes that have been landing every day from china in California airports. The california health dept says they have things well in hand and no cases so far. Then go on to say that they do not have any test kits for this. Ding, Ding Ding. All this talk about the one plane ignoring the daily 90 ones.

OOOOOOH, got it now, must be the oldtimers setting in again. Time to take my medicine Cheers2

by **ReadyMom** Thu Jan 30, 2020 4:16 pm

So ... here's something I haven't thought about:

Hat Tip to FluWiki, Facebook:

Infectious disease experts warn of outbreak risks in US border detention centers
https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2020-01/uoms-ide012920.php?fbclid=IwAR2-HYvuKERBkxpo2FLrbIy8nP4-ZbM6Y5uS6CDSPXvz1sPItA3Dh5n6i2w

(SNIP): Detention centers have become tinderboxes for infectious-disease outbreaks," warned Mark Travassos, MD, Assistant Professor of Pediatrics at UMSOM and a pediatric infectious disease specialist in the UMSOM Center for Vaccine Development and Global Health (CVD). ... continued

by TRex2 Thu Jan 30, 2020 5:04 pm

The article is a mix of "not really news" and outright Leftist Propaganda. Found at the bottom of the page:

not responsible for the accuracy of news releases

Those of us on the Right have been pointing out, for years now, that illegals and asylum seekers crossing the border are bringing diseases we have thought were eradicated from the US for decades. The response from the Left was to ridicule us.

Now they point out that the detention centers are breeding grounds (well, duh). The propaganda angle is the disinformation paragraph:

"Children and adults are being held in crowded conditions without adequate sanitation or medical care," they wrote,

What will REALLY be news is when this new Corrona Virus begins to spread in the refugee concentration zone, just south of the border.

by oldasrocks Thu Jan 30, 2020 5:49 pm

So spread the rumor that the USA is a breeding ground for the new china flu and all these people may head home fast.

by TRex2 Thu Jan 30, 2020 6:45 pm

oldasrocks wrote:So spread the rumor that the USA is a breeding ground for the new china flu and all these people may head home fast.

That might be worth a try Laughing

by oldasrocks Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:05 pm

In other news: Read oil prices are down 10% today as world is panicking. The panic might kill more people that the flu does in the long term.

by **ReadyMom** Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:59 pm

Hat Tip to 'penguinsix', FluTrackers:

US Embassy and Consulates scaling back staff in China, sending home non-essential personnel
https://www.axios.com/state-department-staff-evacuate-china-coronavirus-05f55f0b-25e7-4fa3-b344-b9c5d245ec7d.html

The State Department is scaling back non-essential personnel from the embassy in Beijing and various consulates in China due to the coronavirus. The Wuhan consulate was ordered shut, but other facilities are on "authorized departure" status which means personnel can leave if so desired.

by **ReadyMom** Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:01 pm

Hat Tip to 'sharon sanders', FluTrackers:

China - Level 4: Do Not Travel
https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/international-travel/International-Travel-Country-Information-Pages/China.html

Do not travel to China due to novel coronavirus first identified in Wuhan, China. On January 30, the World Health Organization has determined the rapidly spreading outbreak constitutes a Public Health Emergency of International Concern. Travelers should be prepared for travel restrictions to be put into effect with little or no advance notice. Commercial carriers have reduced or suspended routes to and from China.

Those currently in China should consider departing using commercial means. The Department of State has requested that all non-essential U.S. government personnel defer travel to China in light of the novel coronavirus.

In an effort to contain the novel coronavirus, the Chinese authorities have suspended air, road, and rail travel in the area around Wuhan and placed restrictions on travel and other activities throughout the country. On January 23, 2020, the Department of State ordered the departure of all non-emergency U.S. personnel and their family members from Wuhan. The U.S. government has limited ability to provide emergency services to U.S. citizens in Hubei province.

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has issued a Warning for all of China.

by **ReadyMom** Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:51 pm

Hat Tip to John West's Daily Big Threat Blog:

How are US hospitals preparing for coronavirus?
https://www.foxnews.com/health/us-hospitals-preparing-for-coronavirus

Hospitals across the U.S. are preparing to receive patients infected with the novel coronavirus and have been given instructions by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) on how they might accommodate such an influx.

Medical centers are expected to "identify and isolate patients with 2019-nCoV and inform key facility staff and public health authorities," immediately, according to the CDC's "Hospital preparedness checklist," provided on its website. ---CONTINUED---

by **ReadyMom** Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:01 pm

Hat Tip to John West's Daily Big Threat Blog:

American Airlines pilots sue to halt China flights amid coronavirus crisis
https://nypost.com/2020/01/30/american-airlines-pilots-sue-to-halt-china-flights-amid-coronavirus-crisis/

The pilots’ union at American Airlines sued on Thursday to stop the carrier from flying to China and told members not to operate flights there because of the spreading coronavirus outbreak.

The Allied Pilots Association, which represents American’s 15,000 pilots, asked a state district court in Dallas for an injunction to halt the flights. The union cited declarations by international health experts that the virus is a public health emergency. ---CONTINUED---

by rick1 Fri Jan 31, 2020 7:40 am

That last plane that landed in Kilifornia and the people were to voluntary stay on a military base for observation for 3 days and than set home for the rest of their 14 days. Well, FOX news just reported that one crackpot tried to escape but was caught.

Now the crackpot has to stay there for 14 days. I guess that's what makes the world go 'round, a bunch of crackpots.

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