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Post by dmwalsh568 Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:13 pm

First case reported

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/s1201-omicron-variant.html

The California and San Francisco Departments of Public Health have confirmed that a recent case of COVID-19 among an individual in California was caused by the Omicron variant (B.1.1.529). The individual was a traveler who returned from South Africa on November 22, 2021. The individual had mild symptoms that are improving, is self-quarantining and has been since testing positive. All close contacts have been contacted and have tested negative.

Second case is more concerning....

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/02/minnesota-reports-second-us-omicron-covid-case-in-resident-who-traveled-to-nyc.html

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The man, who was fully vaccinated and has since recovered, traveled to New York City to attend the Anime NYC 2021 convention at the Javits Center from Nov. 19-21, the department said in a statement.
New York Gov. Kathy Hochul said on Thursday that there are currently no confirmed cases in the state.

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The man, who was fully vaccinated and has since recovered, traveled to New York City to attend the Anime NYC 2021 convention at the Javits Center from Nov. 19-21, the department said in a statement.

more detail at link, but the takeaway is that this second case didn't leave the country and only travelled to NYC (to an Anime convention.) So chances high are others at the convention were infected, given that NYC/NYS aren't reporting any cases yet. But worse yet is this was over a week ago, and unless the first case traveled via a NY airport, then these are unrelated cases....

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Post by rick1 Thu Dec 09, 2021 3:43 pm

Yep, it's spreading like wild fire, now in 23 states and it only took a week since it was detected in Kilifornia.

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Post by Dave58 Thu Dec 09, 2021 3:48 pm

rick1 wrote:Yep, it's spreading like wild fire, now in 23 states and it only took a week since it was detected in Kilifornia.

Our state is quickly turning red again

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Post by TRex2 Thu Dec 09, 2021 7:33 pm

I know I have said this about Delta (and I was partly correct), but I don't think this surge can be as high or long as the previous one, since we are running out of people to infect.

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Post by dmwalsh568 Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:09 am

New article on Omicron

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/omicron-thrives-airways-not-lungs-new-data-asymptomatic-cases-2021-12-15/

Compared to the earlier Delta variant, Omicron multiplies itself 70 times more quickly in tissues that line airway passages, which may facilitate person-to-person spread, they said. But in lung tissues, Omicron replicates 10 times more slowly than the original version of the coronavirus, which might contribute to less-severe illness.

A formal report of the findings is under peer review for publication and has not been released by the research team. In a news release issued by Hong Kong University, study leader Dr. Michael Chan Chi-wai said, "It is important to note that the severity of disease in humans is not determined only by virus replication" but also by each person's immune response to the infection, which sometimes evolves into life-threatening inflammation.

Chan added, "By infecting many more people, a very infectious virus may cause more severe disease and death even though the virus itself may be less pathogenic. Therefore, taken together with our recent studies showing that the Omicron variant can partially escape immunity from vaccines and past infection, the overall threat from Omicron variant is likely to be very significant."

The researchers pooled data from 77 earlier studies involving a total of 19,884 individuals with confirmed SARS-CoV-2 infections. They found that among infected people in the general community, about 40% were asymptomatic, as were 54% of infected pregnant women, 53% of infected air or cruise travelers, 48% of infected nursing home residents or staff and 30% of infected healthcare workers or hospitalized patients.

The pooled percentage of asymptomatic infections was about 46% in North America, 44% in Europe and 28% in Asia.

a lot more detail at the link, but I think it's too early to count Omicron out - as the saying goes, quantity has a quality all it's own.... and with Omicron cases doubling every two days it won't take long to see how high it can really go....

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Post by TRex2 Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:31 pm

Omicron is a bit of a "game changer" but there is no need to panic, even though that is what those in power would like to see. And they are seeing it.

Varney (Fox Business) said the Covid testing station he passes by, on his way to work each day, has been all but empty the past few weeks, until this morning. This morning, there were about 75 people waiting to get tested. Just a small symptom of the stampeding of the sheeples.

This variant is probably going to give us another major spike in the number of cases, and a minor spike in the number of hospitalizations and deaths. Ironically (but predictably) those areas that worked hardest on slowing the spread and vaccinating everyone, last summer, will get hit the hardest, since having the virus (even if it was an asymptomatic or even silent case) is better protection than the vaccine.

My original advice still remains the same: if you are over 60, or have other aggravating factors (as I do), get the vaccine (unless there is some reason you can't). When available, get the booster. There is no need to panic, or even to hurry, really, but don't procrastinate too long.

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Post by rick1 Fri Dec 17, 2021 9:49 am


Yep, heard that on the news, but that's not going to stop corn pop, the Justice Department just ask the Supreme Court to overturn a judge's ruling on mandates in about half the states on mandating vaccines for health care workers:

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/supreme-court-vaccine-mandate/2021/12/16/id/1049027/?ns_mail_uid=ed113837-94a1-4b8d-8fab-a7f206fd5031&ns_mail_job=DM282654_12172021&s=acs&dkt_nbr=010504mt2v97

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Post by rick1 Mon Dec 20, 2021 9:45 am

Omicron is spreading like wild fire, even the FULLY vaccinated are coming down with it. The outlook, according to Fauci, doesn't look good:

https://www.newsmax.com/us/fauci-omicron-deaths/2021/12/19/id/1049281/?ns_mail_uid=ed113837-94a1-4b8d-8fab-a7f206fd5031&ns_mail_job=DM285358_12202021&s=acs&dkt_nbr=01050496dinw

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Post by TRex2 Mon Dec 20, 2021 2:21 pm

rick1 wrote:Omicron is spreading like wild fire, even the FULLY vaccinated are coming down with it. The outlook, according to Fauci, doesn't look good:
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Fauci hasn't been right about anything, in almost a year.

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Post by TRex2 Tue Dec 21, 2021 2:05 pm

TRex2 wrote:Omicron is a bit of a "game changer" but ...

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There is a corollary to the above reasoning:
If you get Omicron, and have not generated any other antibodies, Omicron will be mild, but you will develop "Omicron specific" antibodies, and might not, later, be able to mount a good defense against the Alpha or Delta variants, which may be around (in small numbers) for years.  If you get Omicron first, it may make Alpha or Delta variants much worse.

Caveat:
This analysis is preliminary, and it may turn out the Omicron antibodies work just fine against the Alpha and Delta variants.
OK, there is some good news.

It appears this variant was also a "lab leak."

The reason this is good news, there are two, incompatible, strains of the virus. Delta emerged from one of them, and I think Alpha (which made a lot of people sick last spring and summer) emerged from the other. The lab apparently allowed mutations from both strains to mix, so Omicron will leave you with antibodies to both.

Again, this analysis is preliminary ( single source intel, in military speak ), but it looks like Omicron will essentially put an end to this pandemic, in two to four months.


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Post by rick1 Tue Jan 25, 2022 9:47 am

Another new strain of omicron, they don't know much about it, but it's here:

https://khn.org/morning-breakout/new-mutation-of-omicron-may-spread-even-faster-its-already-in-the-us/

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Post by TRex2 Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:53 am

rick1 wrote:Another new strain of omicron, they don't know much about it, but it's here:
https://khn.org/morning-breakout/new-mutation-of-omicron-may-spread-even-faster-its-already-in-the-us/
Yawn. Another day, another mutation.

At this point, it is best to ignore most of the news about future mutations.
If anything really significant pops up, we should have a few weeks to prepare.

Keep calm and prep on.

And, never forget: God is still in charge.

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Post by Dave58 Wed Jan 26, 2022 12:08 pm

Agree-sign Agree-sign

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Post by rick1 Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:54 pm

We now have a omicron variant called "Stealth".

The stealth variant is accounted for 1/3 of the global infections, maybe you'll have to get shot number 4:

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/stealth-omicron-advances-scientists-learning-83085514

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Post by TRex2 Fri Feb 25, 2022 5:21 pm

rick1 wrote:We now have a omicron variant called "Stealth".
The stealth variant is accounted for 1/3 of the global infections, maybe you'll have to get shot number 4:
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/stealth-omicron-advances-scientists-learning-83085514
Yep. It is the one we wrote about, here, a month ago.

ABC needs to "keep up." Laugh Animated

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