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Post by ReadyMom Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:58 pm

After UK, South Africa Identifies New Covid Strain Causing Surge In Cases
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/south-africa-identifies-new-covid-19-strain-causing-surge-in-cases-2340788

Johannesburg: South Africa has identified a new variant of the coronavirus that is driving a second wave of infections, the health minister said on Friday, days after Britain said it had also found a new variant of the virus boosting cases.

"We have convened this public briefing today to announce that a variant of the SARS-COV-2 Virus - currently termed 501.V2 Variant - has been identified by our genomics scientists here in South Africa," Minister of Health Zweli Mkhize tweeted.

"The evidence that has been collated, therefore, strongly suggests that the current second wave we are experiencing is being driven by this new variant," Mkhize added.


South Africa experiencing a new COVID-19 strain - health minister
https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/south-africa-experiencing-a-new-covid-19-strain-health-minister-2020-12-18


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Post by ReadyMom Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:59 pm

New Coronavirus Strain Discovered In South Africa, More Severe Than Previous Variants
https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/rest-of-the-world-news/new-coronavirus-strain-discovered-in-south-africa-more-severe-than-previous-variants.html

According to reports, the new strain of the COVID-19 virus named '501.V2 Variant' is said to be more severe as it contains a higher viral load.


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Post by rick1 Sun Dec 20, 2020 2:18 pm

Doesn't sound good at all.

Just a matter of time before we see it here, or is it here already and we just haven't found it yet. Shocked

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Post by TRex2 Sun Dec 20, 2020 4:07 pm

ReadyMom wrote:New Coronavirus Strain Discovered In South Africa, More Severe Than Previous Variants
https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/rest-of-the-world-news/new-coronavirus-strain-discovered-in-south-africa-more-severe-than-previous-variants.html

According to reports, the new strain of the COVID-19 virus named '501.V2 Variant' is said to be more severe as it contains a higher viral load.
You have to separate what the article actually says, from what they want you to believe.
"It is still very early but at this stage, the preliminary data suggests that the virus that is now dominating in the second wave is spreading faster than the first wave. It is not clear if the second wave has more or fewer deaths, in other words, the severity is still very unclear. We had all of these different strains routinely spreading in South Africa during our first wave and subsequently. What became quite different that we did not expect is the rapid way in which this variant has become dominant in South Africa," Mkhize said in a statement.
So, in spite of the headlines and a bunch of rhetoric, nothing has really changed.

This virus has been making minor mutations all along. One constant in those mutations is that they trade ease of infecting new people for harm they do to people. In other words, the faster strains give milder symptoms. A fast mild strain will dominate the numbers, very quickly, because, in addition to spreading more easily, people will be less likely to know they have it and therefore take fewer precautions.

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Post by ReadyMom Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:46 pm

Good point to consider, TRex! Thanks!

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Post by ReadyMom Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:29 am

Another coronavirus mutation was discovered – and this one might be more dangerous
https://bgr.com/2020/12/19/coronavirus-mutation-south-africa-501-v2/

A new coronavirus mutation was discovered in South Africa, where a version called 501.V2 seems to be fueling the second wave of COVID-19 in the nation.
The new strain seems to be more dangerous, causing more severe illness in younger patients who do not suffer from other medical conditions.
Health experts believe the new SARS-CoV-2 strain can still be defeated with the current vaccines.



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Post by TRex2 Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:45 am

Some good news, and some bad.

ReadyMom wrote:Another coronavirus mutation was discovered – and this one might be more dangerous
https://bgr.com/2020/12/19/coronavirus-mutation-south-africa-501-v2/
   A new coronavirus mutation was discovered in South Africa, where a version called 501.V2 seems to be fueling the second wave of COVID-19 in the nation.
   The new strain seems to be more dangerous, causing more severe illness in younger patients who do not suffer from other medical conditions.
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First the good news:
As to the article above and others like it: we need to separate journalistic pandering from reported fact. If you go the article and do a word search for "severe" you can quickly discover that a media reporter said the new variant does cause more sever illness, and the South Africa’s Health Minister said it might cause more severe illness, but the UK "health officials" said "The mutation did not appear to cause more severe illness."

Several other medical experts agree with the UK health officials.

So, right now, it appears that, contrary to media pandering, that this virus is NOT more severe.
(Of course, this isn't the last word, since we have been studying the new variant for less than 6 weeks.)

Now for the bad news.
All variants until now were simply alterations in the layout of the spikes on the surface of the virus, and each time it increased the ease with which it could attach itself (making it easier to spread) it would decrease its virulence (making the illness less severe). And these changes had no effect on our ability to use antibody treatments, vaccines, and the idea that having fought the virus once would leave you immune (with rare exceptions) for months or years.

Until now. This new variant harboring the mutation E484K which has been named 501Y.V2, while it may not be more severe, it seems to be genetically different enough to evade the vaccines we are rolling out.
https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2021/01/preprint-genomic-evidence-of-sars-cov-2.html

This had not been confirmed, but the xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.

Wow. Dang. I wrote the above off of a 7 Jan 2021 article, and the very next day, this gets published:
https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2021/01/preprint-neutralization-of-n501y-mutant.html
Given the steady stream of negative reports surrounding the emergence of COVID variants (B.1.1.7 and 501Y.V2) around the world, the headlines overnight - based on a preprint study - (see Reuters Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine appears effective against mutation in new coronavirus variants -study) heralds welcomed - if incomplete - news.
The study (see below) - while not yet peer-reviewed, and based on lab tests on blood from vaccine recipients - suggests that the Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine is likely still effective against a key mutation (501Y) that occurs in both of these variants.

So, the jury is still out.


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Post by TRex2 Wed Feb 03, 2021 6:24 pm

I said, before, the jury is still out.
Someone coined the phrase: the absence of evidence is once again, not necessarily the evidence of absence.

Sadly, the jury is now in.
And there is evidence that some of the new strains, containing mutation variants 501Y, L452, and E484K are showing increasing levels of severity and higher mortality, in addition to replicating faster and escaping our antigen treatments (meaning they may also be less affected by current vaccinations).

Moderna is now researching how to make their vaccine more effective against the new strains, but in the mean time, we may see a new wave of infections.


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Post by ReadyMom Wed Feb 03, 2021 9:35 pm

This virus is like a snake ... it just keep pouncing and biting.

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