The Fall Of Afghanistan
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I doubt we airlifted 100,000 people in less than 14 days but I need to do the math. I think this is BS.
Somewhere I read there are 3 or 4 military bases here that are housing those without proper cred like a Green Card, naturalization docs, etc.
One of those bases is Ft. Bliss which is also hosting our guests from the southern border including a large number of unaccompanied children. My thoughts and prayers are with Gov. Abbott. He truly is being dumped on for being the wrong political party and trying to do the right thing for all Texans.
I did the math. Based on 12 days of flights, first alerts went oiut Aug 14th from the State Dept....
If they flew 16hrs per day that would be 520 or so people airlifted per hr. to get 100,000 people out.
Somewhere I read there are 3 or 4 military bases here that are housing those without proper cred like a Green Card, naturalization docs, etc.
One of those bases is Ft. Bliss which is also hosting our guests from the southern border including a large number of unaccompanied children. My thoughts and prayers are with Gov. Abbott. He truly is being dumped on for being the wrong political party and trying to do the right thing for all Texans.
I did the math. Based on 12 days of flights, first alerts went oiut Aug 14th from the State Dept....
If they flew 16hrs per day that would be 520 or so people airlifted per hr. to get 100,000 people out.
Last edited by Blondie on Sat Aug 28, 2021 5:25 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : Doing the math on evacuees)
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Your figures may be true Blondie, as they said, there was a c17 taking off every 20 minutes or so.
But how many times I've seen on TV, pictures of planes in the air with only a handful of people.
You can't trust the government, no trust at all, none, neltch, zero, nada.
But how many times I've seen on TV, pictures of planes in the air with only a handful of people.
You can't trust the government, no trust at all, none, neltch, zero, nada.
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Capacity of a C17:
https://www.af.mil/About-Us/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/1529726/c-17-globemaster-iii/
I sure do miss Mattis.
https://www.af.mil/About-Us/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/1529726/c-17-globemaster-iii/
I sure do miss Mattis.
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rick1 wrote:Your figures may be true Blondie, as they said, there was a c17 taking off every 20 minutes or so.
But how many times I've seen on TV, pictures of planes in the air with only a handful of people.
You can't trust the government, no trust at all, none, neltch, zero, nada.
Blind faith in your government or its leaders will get you killed
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Blondie wrote:Capacity of a C17:
https://www.af.mil/About-Us/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/1529726/c-17-globemaster-iii/
I sure do miss Mattis.
Me too, but Trump pushed Mad Dog out 'cause Mad Dog knew more then he did.
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Retired General Dana Pittard fears of in country sympathizers posing a big problem for the U.S.:
https://www.foxnews.com/us/kabul-attacks-us-threat-islamic-extremists-army-general-dana-pittard
https://www.foxnews.com/us/kabul-attacks-us-threat-islamic-extremists-army-general-dana-pittard
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Here's a list and pictures of the 13 service men/women that were KIA at the airport last week. 11 U.S. Marines (2 of which were woman marines), 1 Navy Corpsman and 1 U.S. Army, (RIP):
https://www.foxnews.com/world/these-are-the-us-service-members-killed-in-the-kabul-airport-attack
https://www.foxnews.com/world/these-are-the-us-service-members-killed-in-the-kabul-airport-attack
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Here's a career Marine with 17 years of active duty, Lt.Col. Stuart Scheller, who spoke the truth and was relieved of his command.
Not only was he relieved of his command, he was so pissed off at the higher command about the Afghanistan withdrawal, that he resigned his commission instead of putting up with the BS of his senior officers and the administration. Now that Marine has a set.
He threw away 17 years of active duty and only had 3 years until retirement. He threw it all away including any benefits from the VA, etc.. He said that he wanted nothing from his service to the country:
https://www.foxnews.com/us/stuart-scheller-marine-fired-criticizing-military-leaders-resigns
Not only was he relieved of his command, he was so pissed off at the higher command about the Afghanistan withdrawal, that he resigned his commission instead of putting up with the BS of his senior officers and the administration. Now that Marine has a set.
He threw away 17 years of active duty and only had 3 years until retirement. He threw it all away including any benefits from the VA, etc.. He said that he wanted nothing from his service to the country:
https://www.foxnews.com/us/stuart-scheller-marine-fired-criticizing-military-leaders-resigns
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As of 4:30pm ET, the final military flight, nicknamed Moose 94 has wheels up and has departed Afghanistan.
Finally, it's over.
Finally, it's over.
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2 fathers of fallen Marines rip biden, read what they had to say about biden and what he said and did while they were in Dover to receive their son's remains. biden must have been in a hurry, he looked at his watch after every casket was taken off the plane and talked more about his son beau than the fallen Marine:
https://www.foxnews.com/media/gold-star-fathers-marines-killed-kabul-biden
Glad we're out of that war, but it just might be the beginning here. General at Ft McCoy allows thousands of UNVETTED Afghans to roam off base freely:
https://www.foxnews.com/media/unvetted-afghan-refugees-wisconsin-military-base
https://www.foxnews.com/media/gold-star-fathers-marines-killed-kabul-biden
Glad we're out of that war, but it just might be the beginning here. General at Ft McCoy allows thousands of UNVETTED Afghans to roam off base freely:
https://www.foxnews.com/media/unvetted-afghan-refugees-wisconsin-military-base
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If they leave the safety and protection of the base, then that's on them to wander the streets of America at 4am.
Kabul got nothin' on the streets of Cleveland, Detroit, Chicago, Baltimore, Compton........
Kabul got nothin' on the streets of Cleveland, Detroit, Chicago, Baltimore, Compton........
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New song about the fall of Afghanistan and the U.S. citizens and allied Afghan's left behind:
https://979weve.com/2021/09/14/listen-to-the-new-five-for-fighting-song-blood-on-my-hands/
https://979weve.com/2021/09/14/listen-to-the-new-five-for-fighting-song-blood-on-my-hands/
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Well, the Taliban are at it again, hanging dead bodies in the town squares. One of the founders of the Taliban says that Taliban rule is back and people will be amputated and/or hung for their crimes.
Now, there are still green card holders and American citizens in Afghanistan and corn pop isn't doing a darn thing to get them out, he wants to import more Haitians into the U.S. instead.
Afghan refugees have assaulted a female soldier at Fort Bliss, doesn't surprise me:
https://www.foxnews.com/world/witness-taliban-hang-dead-body-afghan-city
Now, there are still green card holders and American citizens in Afghanistan and corn pop isn't doing a darn thing to get them out, he wants to import more Haitians into the U.S. instead.
Afghan refugees have assaulted a female soldier at Fort Bliss, doesn't surprise me:
https://www.foxnews.com/world/witness-taliban-hang-dead-body-afghan-city
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I've been watching the Senate hearing on the withdrawal from Afghanistan. The Senate is putting the Secretary of Defense, General Milley and General McKenzie through the ringer.
All three of them did not recommend the withdrawal of any troops, they wanted to keep the other air base and they all wanted to stay beyond the August 31th deadline.
Looks like joe crow is eating some crow right now, as he lied to the American people on all three of the recommendations of these people.
But, maybe corn pop just forgot where he was at or just can't remember. More failures by the head clown.
All three of them did not recommend the withdrawal of any troops, they wanted to keep the other air base and they all wanted to stay beyond the August 31th deadline.
Looks like joe crow is eating some crow right now, as he lied to the American people on all three of the recommendations of these people.
But, maybe corn pop just forgot where he was at or just can't remember. More failures by the head clown.
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Rick, people have raised $2.3M for his defense.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/22-million-raised-marine-military-detainment-after-criticizing-afghan-chaos
I get the $17.75 donations but you gotta 'splain the rest.
God Speed Lt. Col. Schneller.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/22-million-raised-marine-military-detainment-after-criticizing-afghan-chaos
I get the $17.75 donations but you gotta 'splain the rest.
God Speed Lt. Col. Schneller.
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Lt. Col Scheller publicly called for accountability for the fiasco in Afghanistan. He did so, in uniform.
Article 32: Pretrial hearing to determine what charges will be brought against him. Evidence can be brought by prosecution, the defense may make a motion or two, but is basically just there to collect information that may be used in his defense, at trial.
After being told to cease posting, he disobeyed the order and posted again, and directly challenged those above him in the military to incarcerate him.
I don't see anything about $17.75, but the number is "a call to arms."
It is important to note that the following article was written while Trump was in office and while insurgent forces were destroying the cities.
https://centerforsecuritypolicy.org/1775-declaration-foreshadowed-current-need-for-unity/
Article 32: Pretrial hearing to determine what charges will be brought against him. Evidence can be brought by prosecution, the defense may make a motion or two, but is basically just there to collect information that may be used in his defense, at trial.
After being told to cease posting, he disobeyed the order and posted again, and directly challenged those above him in the military to incarcerate him.
I don't see anything about $17.75, but the number is "a call to arms."
It is important to note that the following article was written while Trump was in office and while insurgent forces were destroying the cities.
https://centerforsecuritypolicy.org/1775-declaration-foreshadowed-current-need-for-unity/
On July 6, 1775, our Continental Congress issued its “Declaration on the Causes and Necessity of Taking Up Arms,” which included this call for unity “before God and the world”: “Our cause is just. Our union is perfect. . . . With hearts fortified with these animating reflections, we most solemnly, before God and the world, declare, that, exerting the utmost energy of those powers, which our beneficent Creator hath graciously bestowed upon us, the arms we have been compelled by our enemies to assume, we will, in defiance of every hazard, with unabating firmness and perseverence, employ for the preservation of our liberties; being with one mind resolved to die freemen rather than to live slaves.”
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What TRex said.
He'll be found guilty on a couple of the charges and be discharged.
After he is discharged from the Corps, he'll make millions off his books, showing how sloppy the war was run, a political war just like Viet Nam.
P.S. When wars/conflicts are fought by politicians and not the Generals, you will be a looser.
He'll be found guilty on a couple of the charges and be discharged.
After he is discharged from the Corps, he'll make millions off his books, showing how sloppy the war was run, a political war just like Viet Nam.
P.S. When wars/conflicts are fought by politicians and not the Generals, you will be a looser.
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I doubt he will make millions, but hopefully he will make enough to live comfortably. In this day and age, the evil ones are the ones who make millions selling their fictions and fantasies to a world where half of the people believe reality, and half live in a fantasy world.rick1 wrote:What TRex said.
He'll be found guilty on a couple of the charges and be discharged.
After he is discharged from the Corps, he'll make millions off his books, showing how sloppy the war was run, a political war just like Viet Nam.
P.S. When wars/conflicts are fought by politicians and not the Generals, you will be a looser.
https://www.surveymonkey.com/curiosity/axios-capitalism-update/
These days, I am not even sure I would trust the Generals:
https://samueladamsreturns.net/episode-309-maj-gen-paul-vallely-on-topics-woke-general-staff/
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/07/when_woke_is_more_sacred_than_old_glory.html
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Lt. Col. Schneller was relleased from the brig today. At least temporarily, no doubt pretrial.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/marine-who-was-jailed-for-speaking-out-on-afghanistan-to-be-released-from-brig-tuesday
God Speed, Sir.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/marine-who-was-jailed-for-speaking-out-on-afghanistan-to-be-released-from-brig-tuesday
God Speed, Sir.
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ISIS, now ISIS-K, according to the under secretary of defense says that they may attack the U.S. within months. Doesn't leave much time for corn pop to take some kind of action. Glad I don't live close to a major city:
https://www.the-sun.com/news/3943728/isis-k-9-11-attack-pentagon/
https://www.the-sun.com/news/3943728/isis-k-9-11-attack-pentagon/
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Here is the result of the failed pull out of Afghanistan, by an administration that doesn't have a clue about what they actually did to the Afghan people:
https://www.newsmax.com/world/globaltalk/taliban-beheading-female-volleyball-player/2021/10/27/id/1042198/?ns_mail_uid=ed113837-94a1-4b8d-8fab-a7f206fd5031&ns_mail_job=DM268921_10272021&s=acs&dkt_nbr=010502i3u1wd
https://www.newsmax.com/world/globaltalk/taliban-beheading-female-volleyball-player/2021/10/27/id/1042198/?ns_mail_uid=ed113837-94a1-4b8d-8fab-a7f206fd5031&ns_mail_job=DM268921_10272021&s=acs&dkt_nbr=010502i3u1wd
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OK, this info in The Sun is from the same Intel people who failed to see China's Hypersonic threat?rick1 wrote:ISIS, now ISIS-K, according to the under secretary of defense says that they may attack the U.S. within months. Doesn't leave much time for corn pop to take some kind of action. Glad I don't live close to a major city:
https://www.the-sun.com/news/3943728/isis-k-9-11-attack-pentagon/
They say six months, I say three.
The only good news is Al Qada and ISIS have a limit to how much they can do, so unless you are where they decide to strike, you're going to watch it on TV.
Of course, that limit may be several locations, it just won't be everywhere at once.
I agree they don't know what they unleashed, but I don't think they care, either.rick1 wrote:Here is the result of the failed pull out of Afghanistan, by an administration that doesn't have a clue about what they actually did to the Afghan people:
https://www.newsmax.com/world/globaltalk/taliban-beheading-female-volleyball-player/2021/10/27/id/1042198/?ns_mail_uid=ed113837-94a1-4b8d-8fab-a7f206fd5031&ns_mail_job=DM268921_10272021&s=acs&dkt_nbr=010502i3u1wd
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Virginia malls on high alert, ISIS threat. Must have come from our southern border. Is this just the beginning:
https://www.theblaze.com/news/isis-virginia-threat-police-halloween
https://www.theblaze.com/news/isis-virginia-threat-police-halloween
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Frankly I would avoid anything ISIS might consider a target, from this point on.
Forever.
Forever.
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