Gun (confiscation/buyback/control)chat

It hasn't been 24 hours since Joe Biden picked Kamala Harris to run as vice president and she's already running her mouth about mandatory gun buyback, nothing less than mandatory confiscation of AR style weapons. She said if congress can't pass a bill to outlaw them in the first 100 days her and Biden are in office, they will sign an executive order to do so. Now that's a joke.

I'm glad I sold all of my AR style weapons yesterday.

Here's here thought on it a few months ago:


https://ussanews.com/News1/2020/08/12/flashback-kamala-harris-called-mandatory-gun-buyback-confiscation-a-good-idea/

But, you will be required to register them with the state.

Just a ruse, so they will know where to go, to confiscate them.

Kamala Harris to run as vice president and she's already running her mouth about mandatory gun buyback, nothing less than mandatory confiscation of AR style weapons. She said if congress can't pass a bill to outlaw them in the first 100 days her and Biden are in office, they will sign an executive order to do so.

Love how they call it a "buy back" when they buy back something with money they took from you at gunpoint.

I stand by my previous statement (in the interest of grammar, I reworded it):
"The only question America needs to answer, at that point, is: do we go down fighting or, let the Left lead us into slavery."

Other threats by Kangaroo  Harris on gun control, limiting the number of guns a person can own, banning the castle doctrine, etc.:


https://patriotgunnews.com/2020/08/13/kamala-harris-takes-aim-at-gun-owners/

The constitution doesn't make any mention of guns being a right for hunting.  None.  Nada.

Don't let the left obfuscate the facts and link the 2a only to hunting and hunting guns. That's their next play. They'll say things like "no one needs this scary looking rifle only designed to kill". "But don't worry we're not coming for your hunting rifle we support your right and tradition of hunting. "

As soon as the black rifles are gone, they would call hunting rifles sniper rifles and ban them too.


The constitution was about allowing civilian citizens the ability to own an bear military comparable rifles for self or community defense against foreign and domestic threats.  Make no mistake that is it's purpose.  I think we should proudly make this connection as well to prevent the left from distorting the facts as usual.

Drinkthekoolaid wrote:The constitution doesn't make any mention of guns being a right for hunting.  None.  Nada.

Don't let the left obfuscate the facts and link the 2a only to hunting and hunting guns. That's their next play. They'll say things like "no one needs this scary looking rifle only designed to kill". "But don't worry we're not coming for your hunting rifle we support your right and tradition of hunting. "

As soon as the black rifles are gone, they would call hunting rifles sniper rifles and ban them too.


The constitution was about allowing civilian citizens the ability to own an bear military comparable rifles for self or community defense against foreign and domestic threats.  Make no mistake that is it's purpose.  I think we should proudly make this connection as well to prevent the left from distorting the facts as usual.

Well I agree with what you say Drink, the U.S. Supreme Court refused to hear a dozen cases on the ownership of AR style weapons, why I say, because I believe they are letting it up to each state. And many states have banned the ownership, have banned high capacity magazines or have banned the sale of the weapons.

https://dailycaller.com/2020/06/16/supreme-court-refuses-to-hear-second-amendment-cases/

I can honestly tell you that I haven't owned a AR style weapon. I have spent a lot of time carrying one so I don't have a problem with anybody owning one.

With gun control being one of the main concerns with the new kids that should let us know which direction they are headed..

I think we should vote accordingly

rick1 wrote:

Drinkthekoolaid wrote:The constitution doesn't make any mention of guns being a right for hunting.  None.  Nada.

Don't let the left obfuscate the facts and link the 2a only to hunting and hunting guns. That's their next play. They'll say things like "no one needs this scary looking rifle only designed to kill". "But don't worry we're not coming for your hunting rifle we support your right and tradition of hunting. "

As soon as the black rifles are gone, they would call hunting rifles sniper rifles and ban them too.


The constitution was about allowing civilian citizens the ability to own an bear military comparable rifles for self or community defense against foreign and domestic threats.  Make no mistake that is it's purpose.  I think we should proudly make this connection as well to prevent the left from distorting the facts as usual.

Well I agree with what you say Drink, the U.S. Supreme Court refused to hear a dozen cases on the ownership of AR style weapons, why I say, because I believe they are letting it up to each state. And many states have banned the ownership, have banned high capacity magazines or have banned the sale of the weapons.

https://dailycaller.com/2020/06/16/supreme-court-refuses-to-hear-second-amendment-cases/

Oh I'm aware.

I live in one of those states.


What NY does, anytime someone gets busted for something that is in violation of the "NY safe act" the DA typically reduces the charge in a plea bargain.

The law is unconstitutional but it's really never been tested or sent to the supreme court. Every one who gets jammed up under it typically takes the plea bargain so they don't risk being a felon. Typically the cases are pled to a misdemeanor or violation depending on what it originally was.

The only thing so far to be struck down by the circuit courts was NY had a 7 bullet limit in their law. That was ruled being too arbitrary and it was revised to the previous 10 Rd limit for everything.

(If the gun was part of another illegal act like drug dealing or burglary obviously the above doesn't apply, I'm strictly talking about a guy minding his business getting caught with something that NY doesn't want them to have).

A youtube video of what the demonrats plan on doing for their gun control agenda:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNPWNP6uc_Q

Here's a U.S. map of states/counties/townships that are a 2nd amendment sanctuary area. According to what I have read about the sanctuary, these areas do not have to abide by any federal law on gun regulations, but I don't believe it. Just click on your state and see if where you reside is on the list:

https://sanctuarycounties.com/2020/03/04/updated-map-of-american-second-amendment-sanctuary-counties-3-4-2020/

rick1 wrote:Here's a U.S. map of states/counties/townships that are a 2nd amendment sanctuary area. According to what I have read about the sanctuary, these areas do not have to abide by any federal law on gun regulations, but I don't believe it. Just click on your state and see if where you reside is on the list:

https://sanctuarycounties.com/2020/03/04/updated-map-of-american-second-amendment-sanctuary-counties-3-4-2020/

In almost every case, it means the Sheriff or local police won't be enforcing the gun laws.

The Federales can still come after you, in person.

The best policy is to "not have" anything that violates Federale rules.

I like that last sentence TRex, for me, I'm like you, just another one of those law abiding citizens.

rick1 wrote:I like that last sentence TRex, for me, I'm like you, just another one of those law abiding citizens.

I reckon I'm safe with my slingshot.....

Corn Pop Biden and his proposed gun control/confiscation of our weapons and the attack on our 2nd amendment. I'm glad I don't own any of this stuff.

https://onenewsnow.com/politics-govt/2021/01/12/bidens-plans-for-you-and-your-ar-15-no-secret

Adolf Hitler did the same thing prior to WW2, by disarming the same people he wanted to control. Now Adolf Biden is planning for the same attack on the law abiding U.S. citizen. Here's what Hitler did, now compare it to what Adolf Biden plans on doing:

https://mises.org/library/gun-control-nazi-germany

rick1 wrote:Corn Pop Biden and his proposed gun control/confiscation of our weapons and the attack on our 2nd amendment. I'm glad I don't own any of this stuff.

https://onenewsnow.com/politics-govt/2021/01/12/bidens-plans-for-you-and-your-ar-15-no-secret

Adolf Hitler did the same thing prior to WW2, by disarming the same people he wanted to control. Now Adolf Biden is planning for the same attack on the law abiding U.S. citizen. Here's what Hitler did, now compare it to what Adolf Biden plans on doing:

https://mises.org/library/gun-control-nazi-germany

Its a good thing I don't own any of them

While, here it is, H.R. 127 on gun control, the far left demonrats  are at it for keeps now. My blood was boiling when I read what the nut job demonrat  is proposing.

There is only one good thing that comes out of this proposed bill and that is this will affect even the democrats that voted for these demonrat crack pots:

https://www.nraila.org/articles/20210205/florida-alert-hr-127-federal-gun-control-proposal

rick1 wrote:While, here it is, H.R. 127 on gun control, the far left demonrats  are at it for keeps now. My blood was boiling when I read what the nut job demonrat  is proposing.

There is only one good thing that comes out of this proposed bill and that is this will affect even the democrats that voted for these demonrat crack pots:

https://www.nraila.org/articles/20210205/florida-alert-hr-127-federal-gun-control-proposal

Sounds kinda similar to the same thing that a gentleman I think his name was Hitler did right before he tried to exterminate all the Jewish folks.....

Dave58 wrote:

rick1 wrote:While, here it is, H.R. 127 on gun control, the far left demonrats  are at it for keeps now. My blood was boiling when I read what the nut job demonrat  is proposing.

There is only one good thing that comes out of this proposed bill and that is this will affect even the democrats that voted for these demonrat crack pots:

https://www.nraila.org/articles/20210205/florida-alert-hr-127-federal-gun-control-proposal

Sounds kinda similar to the same thing that a gentleman I think his name was Hitler did right before he tried to exterminate all the Jewish folks.....

Exactly Dave and here it is:

https://mises.org/library/gun-control-nazi-germany

Here's a list of states that now have requirements for gun registration:

https://ballotpedia.org/Firearm_registration_requirements_by_state

Biden adds to fears of a civil war over his assault on the 2nd amendment:


https://www.oann.com/bidens-assault-on-2nd-amendment-sparks-fears-of-civil-war/

Here's a list of the demonrat's proposed gun control laws that they want to implement, but these are no all of the proposed laws:

https://joebiden.com/gunsafety/

rick1 wrote:Corn Pop Biden and his proposed gun control/confiscation of our weapons and the attack on our 2nd amendment. I'm glad I don't own any of this stuff.

https://onenewsnow.com/politics-govt/2021/01/12/bidens-plans-for-you-and-your-ar-15-no-secret

Adolf Hitler did the same thing prior to WW2, by disarming the same people he wanted to control. Now Adolf Biden is planning for the same attack on the law abiding U.S. citizen. Here's what Hitler did, now compare it to what Adolf Biden plans on doing:

https://mises.org/library/gun-control-nazi-germany

I think every single genocide in the past century has been preceded by a gun confiscation by a totalitarian regime in the name of "public safety"

rick1 wrote:Biden adds to fears of a civil war over his assault on the 2nd amendment:


https://www.oann.com/bidens-assault-on-2nd-amendment-sparks-fears-of-civil-war/

IMO this is strictly my purely fictional entertainment purposes post. (just so no one gets the wrong idea)

This is how I think "if" there is another civil war how it happens.


I'll explain;

America is essentially fracturing before our eyes with different value system's, goals, ideals and cultural norms. The left has steadily and increasingly been consolidating power. President Trump was merely a speed bump to slow the process down but it's all but inevitable. The federal government will never make a conscious decision to have less power and to shrink, they will continuously want more. The next generation of aggressive socialists and globalists taking control of the Democrat party are no friends of liberty or gun rights

The Democrat party is going to become increasingly assertive in pushing the agenda of the fringe left anti gun policies and for practical purposes the right having guns interferes with the globalist agenda.

Many of the "red states", "middle America", the mountain west, appalachia, etc are not going to be OK with an increasingly aggressive and hostile federal government telling them what to do and jeopardizing their culture and way of life. I'm waiting to see if some states openly defy the feds on the issue of gun control. I can see it causing either a secessionist movement or a loose Alliance of pro gun sanctuary states. It will get really interesting when thousands of pro gun supporters from blue states start to self migrate to sanctuaries. Push will come to shove if they try to secede or if the state governors use state troopers, national guard or local LEOs to arrest federal agents (FBI, ATF, Marshalls etc) from arresting their citizens over federal law gun violations.

That has a very reasonable and plausible scenario that can play out.

It's in many ways similar to 1859-1860 america but in this time it's gun rights instead of slavery. Lincoln was also viewed in the south as an illegitimate President.

There certainly are parallels to be drawn.

TRex2 wrote:

rick1 wrote:Here's a U.S. map of states/counties/townships that are a 2nd amendment sanctuary area. According to what I have read about the sanctuary, these areas do not have to abide by any federal law on gun regulations, but I don't believe it. Just click on your state and see if where you reside is on the list:

https://sanctuarycounties.com/2020/03/04/updated-map-of-american-second-amendment-sanctuary-counties-3-4-2020/

In almost every case, it means the Sheriff or local police won't be enforcing the gun laws.

The Federales can still come after you, in person.

The best policy is to "not have" anything that violates Federale rules.

Correct.

Just because you are in compliance with state laws, the federals can still come get you if you are breaking federal laws.

To make a comparison to "illegal immigrant sanctuary states" the local law enforcement just refused to follow federal law and/or cooperate with federal authorities. Federal agents were still able to go in on their own And make arrests or deportations.

As I understand it, if you use the 10th amendment, the Feds can't touch you.

If a gun is manufactured in your state, and you buy that gun in your state, and don't take that gun out of state, the feds can't tough ya. Many states have done this.

But I don't know if it's true or not, to complicated for me.

So I just don't own any weapon that violates the law. I have the old black powder weapons.

OK, got this off of GAB.com, you just got to read this article:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicksibilla/2021/03/23/biden-administration-urges-supreme-court-to-let-cops-enter-homes-and-seize-guns-without-a-warrant/?sh=78fc5ad72829

rick1 wrote:OK, got this off of GAB.com, you just got to read this article:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicksibilla/2021/03/23/biden-administration-urges-supreme-court-to-let-cops-enter-homes-and-seize-guns-without-a-warrant/?sh=78fc5ad72829

The left has no idea. None. They have no idea what they're asking for and what the unintented consequences will be.

It's not a coincidence that there are troops in DC now still. DC is a fortified zone. What should we infer? That they're there because the politicians aren't afraid of protecting a power transition anymore but because they are scared of our reactions to their intended policies.

They're intending to do things that they know will infuriate us and they're scared of the reaction.

Drinkthekoolaid wrote:It's not a coincidence that there are troops in DC now still.  DC is a fortified zone. What should we infer?  That they're there because the politicians aren't afraid of protecting a power transition anymore but because they are scared of our reactions to their intended policies.

They're intending to do things that they know will infuriate us and they're scared of the reaction.

I saw on the news that they are starting to take down the so called fence, but it may take awhile.

OK, here we go, Hunter Biden buys a pistol and lies on the federal firearms form, that he never used drugs. Everybody knows he's a crack head, but now will he pay the price that everybody else pays when they lie on the form, which is a felony. And that's not all, his girlfriend threw the pistol in a garbage can, in a store, near a school zone.

10 years in prison and a $250,000 fine.

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/hunter-biden-lied-on-background-check-a-felony-to-obtain-handgun-later-thrown-in-trash-can-and-stolen/

rick1 wrote:OK, here we go, Hunter Biden buys a pistol and lies on the federal firearms form, that he never used drugs. Everybody knows he's a crack head, but now will he pay the price that everybody else pays when they lie on the form, which is a felony. And that's not all, his girlfriend threw the pistol in a garbage can, in a store, near a school zone.
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Well, this is why many of us say that Democrats are not responsible adults and should not be allowed to posses firearms, or hold public office.  The little girl that threw the pistol in a public trash can illustrates all that is wrong with the gun grabbing Left: they are irrational and irresponsible.

(And just to be clear: I don't care if she is 54 years old, 300lbs, and a college grad, she demonstrated that, mentally and emotionally, she is still a little girl, and should be treated as a child.)

One democratic Senator doesn't support the gun control resolution that was passed by the house:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/23/politics/manchin-house-gun-bills-democrats/index.html

Biden prepares for executive order on gun control:

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/white-house-says-biden-is-prepared-to-issue-executive-orders-on-guns-180754699.html

I know that it's against the law to buy/pay for votes, but the demonrats in the white house don't care.

Joe Manchin (D), who said he would not vote for either of the 2 house bills on gun control or vote for the elimination of the filibuster may be having second thoughts.

Manchin's wife has been appointed as co-chair to the Appalachian Regional Commission by sleepy Joe Biden:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/26/politics/gayle-manchin-appalachian-regional-commission/index.html

More talk coming out the biden is going to issue an executive order now.


I've been trying to warn you guys they want to do what they've done to states like NY on a national level.


Once laws are on the books it's so much harder to get them removed. Ask any NY gun owner about the nysafeact and you'll understand.

I know many think it's not possible on a national scale but the left is relentless and they won't stop.  Whether it's legal or not or unconstitutional won't matter.

When was the last time the supreme court took up a case on all the infringements in states like NY, NJ, MA, IL, CA etc

It's not going to. Do not place your faith in the SCOTUS to right things.

OK Drink, I took you're advice and read the NY gun laws. I'm surprised you haven't moved south to PA.

You guys even regulate, get this, knives and slingshots. I'm surprised they don't regulate pea shooters.

Every conceal permit must have the make, model, serial number, etc. on the permit, heck, I have around 15 pistols, that's a lot of information on one permit.

And no open carry, man you people up in NY put up with a lot more then I could.

The crap you have to go through to buy/give ammo is another bunch of BS.

Pennsylvania will honor New York's pistol permits but New York will put me in jail if I carry there.

You guys are really a deep blue state, very deep blue.

And I don't want to even talk about all the taxes you guys pay, that's out of this world too.

My heart goes out to ya brother.

Crack pot Joe Crow is going to sign an executive order on gun control because he can't get enough democrate support for it:

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/04/07/biden-executive-actions-guns-479704

rick1 wrote:Crack pot Joe Crow is going to sign an executive order on gun control because he can't get enough democrate support for it:

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/04/07/biden-executive-actions-guns-479704

There is a lot more going on besides gun control.. They are stripping our rights away little by little everyday..

The most concerning thing to me is the fact that nobody is standing up and just saying no we are not going to let this happen....

Sadly America is broken......The new generation is wimps as long as they can have their cell phones and inter net status is good .... O one other thing pls sir may I have another government check...

We are frigging doomed....

I agree with ya Dave, the snowflakes, like AOC, are now just starting to run the government. Yes, I do believe we are doomed, we are destroying ourselves from within.

The thing about executive orders, they are not law, except for state of emergencies and even those are now being limited to their length of time. Laws can only be laws, if approved by congress, the senate and the president signs them into law.

This is why some states, and many counties within other states will not enforce gun laws that are signed by executive orders, only the feds can enforce them or the state police if the gov. of that states says so.

The county I live in will not enforce any new gun laws that are signed by executive order. And if signed into law by congress, the senate and approved by the president, our county sheriff, has started a county militia. He will deputize those individuals who want to be in that militia and they will be required to have (their own) ar-15s, etc., to defend the county.

Is this legal, don't know, but I'll sign up for it if Joe Crow Biden signs a bill put into law.

Bump stock ban is illegal, they are not machine guns:

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/mar/25/bump-stocks-not-machine-guns-and-not-subject-atf-b/

The county I live in will not enforce any new gun laws that are signed by executive order. And if signed into law by congress, the senate and approved by the president, our county sheriff, has started a county militia. He will deputize those individuals who want to be in that militia and they will be required to have (their own) ar-15s, etc., to defend the county.

Is this legal, don't know, but I'll sign up for it if Joe Crow Biden signs a bill put into law.

People shouldn't be worried about it being legal, they should worry: is this going to create a de facto [gun] registration, of people who own AR-15's?

TRex2 wrote:

The county I live in will not enforce any new gun laws that are signed by executive order. And if signed into law by congress, the senate and approved by the president, our county sheriff, has started a county militia. He will deputize those individuals who want to be in that militia and they will be required to have (their own) ar-15s, etc., to defend the county.

Is this legal, don't know, but I'll sign up for it if Joe Crow Biden signs a bill put into law.

People shouldn't be worried about it being legal, they should worry: is this going to create a de facto  [gun] registration, of people who own AR-15's?

TRex, how do you register a long gun (rifle or shotgun) that does not have a serial number. Prior to 1968, many, I mean millions of long guns did not and do not have serial numbers.

And, what about all the guns that were allowed to be brought back from the wars/conflicts from those countries we were in as souvenirs, that the U.S. government knows nothing about.

I won't say if I have any of this long guns, or souvenirs, but if I did, they'll never get on the national registry.

When I say souvenirs, I mean pistols, ammo, machine guns, etc..

Here's a list of the gun control laws that have been placed into law since the second amendment was established, a good read:

https://time.com/5169210/us-gun-control-laws-history-timeline/

rick1 wrote:...
TRex, how do you register a long gun (rifle or shotgun) that does not have a serial number. Prior to 1968, many, I mean millions of long guns did not and do not have serial numbers.
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You miss the point. I suspect your sheriff hasn't really thought it through, either. It doesn't register the guns, but it could create a list of places were they can be reasonably certain to find AR-15's and probably other guns they want to confiscate. All the BATF would need is a pretense of probable cause, to confiscate the list, giving them a lot of intel for later attacks.

Side note:
A secure way to keep the list would be to encrypt it, and use a "secret sharing" system.No one person would have the key to decrypt the list.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/cryptology/Secret-sharing

one must first understand the essentials of one of the basic tools in contemporary cryptology: secret-sharing. There is only one way to design systems whose overall reliability must be greater than that of some critical components—as is the case for aircraft, nuclear weapons, and communications systems—and that is by the appropriate use of redundancy so the system can continue to function even though some components fail. The same is true for information-based systems in which the probability of the security functions being realized must be greater than the probability that some of the participants will not cheat. Secret-sharing, which requires a combination of information held by each participant in order to decipher the key, is a means to enforce concurrence of several participants in the expectation that it is less likely that many will cheat than that one will.

The RSA cryptoalgorithm described in the next section is a two-out-of-two secret-sharing scheme in which each key individually provides no information.

Further details are unnecessary, as computer programs can be used to do the tech work.

rick1 wrote:Crack pot Joe Crow is going to sign an executive order on gun control because he can't get enough democrate support for it:

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/04/07/biden-executive-actions-guns-479704

The bans and other measures he is proposing will impact almost no one. I suspect his handlers are trying to set up "test cases" to go to court, to get precedents. Once he has some courts agreeing that he has the right to issue these unconstitutional orders, he will proceed to do some real damage.

I think the best course of action, on our part is to let no one, outside of a few trusted family members and close friends, know if we do or do not have anything that they are interested in banning. As the military used to say: "neither confirm nor deny it." We best play our cards close to our chest, and hope that those with money and motivation (NRA-ILA, and GOA) fight this.

Is it against the law to charge a fee to buy or keep a gun, rifle, shotgun, pistol? Don't know?

Well, read this. Sounds like it's against the bill of rights and the constitution.

What do ya thing?

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/04/us_supreme_court_gun_licensing_fees_are_unconstitutional.html

Supreme Court to hear a heated gun control debate from New York. This could make or break conceal carry in other states, especially the demonrat states:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-court-guns/u-s-supreme-court-takes-major-case-on-carrying-concealed-handguns-idUSKBN2CD1PN

rick1 wrote:Supreme Court to hear a heated gun control debate from New York. This could make or break conceal carry in other states, especially the demonrat states:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-court-guns/u-s-supreme-court-takes-major-case-on-carrying-concealed-handguns-idUSKBN2CD1PN

We have about 50-50 chance.

3 lies that joe "crow" biden stated about his proposed gun control bill:

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/04/bidens-missteps-on-gun-policies/

California Judge overturns AR-15 ban, compares an AR-15 to a swiss army knife. Do think this will hurt joe crow on his gun control?

I'm sure California will appeal the judgement. Never knew California had a conservative Judge:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/05/us/california-gun-ban-overturned/index.html

rick1 wrote:California Judge overturns AR-15 ban, compares an AR-15 to a swiss army knife. Do think this will hurt joe crow on his gun control?

I'm sure California will appeal the judgement. Never knew California had a conservative Judge:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/05/us/california-gun-ban-overturned/index.html

Federal appeals court blocks the AR-15 ban in Kilifornia, next stop, U.S. Supreme Court:

https://abc7news.com/california-assault-weapons-ban-appeal-ruling-ca-gun-blocked-gavin-newsom/10820022/

rick1 wrote:

rick1 wrote:California Judge overturns AR-15 ban, compares an AR-15 to a swiss army knife. Do think this will hurt joe crow on his gun control?

I'm sure California will appeal the judgement. Never knew California had a conservative Judge:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/05/us/california-gun-ban-overturned/index.html

Federal appeals court blocks the AR-15 ban in Kilifornia, next stop, U.S. Supreme Court:

https://abc7news.com/california-assault-weapons-ban-appeal-ruling-ca-gun-blocked-gavin-newsom/10820022/

SCOTUS needs to take up this case and get a recent relevant ruling. It would help states like me in NY

A good thing for the 2nd amendment, for now:

https://www.newsmax.com/politics/biden-chipman-aft-nomination/2021/09/09/id/1035680/

Supreme Court getting ready to strike down New York's new gun control law.

This should make DTKA happy

https://fox40.com/news/national-and-world-news/high-court-seems-ready-to-strike-down-new-york-gun-law/

Dave58 wrote:https://nypost.com/2022/05/30/biden-goes-on-anti-gun-tirade-suggests-theres-no-rational-basis-for-9mm-pistols/

I expect nothing less from that MORON or to be political correct:

"A person affected with mild intellectual disability" or " A foolish or stupid person"

And this moron has both.

Remember, it's election year and the demonrats want to stay in office.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/moron

https://www.foxnews.com/world/canadas-trudeau-freeze-handgun-ownership-mandatory-buybacks

It won't be long before they try this here.. The real question is will they be willing to draw blood to accomplish their goals ???

I just don't see everybody saying ok here's mine.....

Dave58 wrote:https://www.foxnews.com/world/canadas-trudeau-freeze-handgun-ownership-mandatory-buybacks

It won't be long before they try this here.. The real question is will they be willing to draw blood to accomplish their goals ???

I just don't see everybody saying ok here's mine.....

I left a comment on this under ReadyMom's post, ya know, since our government wants our guns, I decided last week to sell ALL my guns and ammo and switch to a semi-automatic blow gun!!!!!!!!!!

I order one today from demonratblowguns.com, pretty cheap too, if I like it, I plan on ordering a couple more.

Dave58 wrote:https://nypost.com/2022/05/30/biden-goes-on-anti-gun-tirade-suggests-theres-no-rational-basis-for-9mm-pistols/

Remember, Biden has no power of his own, he is a sock puppet tyrant, installed by the Junta.

Dave58 wrote:https://www.foxnews.com/world/canadas-trudeau-freeze-handgun-ownership-mandatory-buybacks
It won't be long before they try this here.. The real question is will they be willing to draw blood to accomplish their goals ???
I just don't see everybody saying ok here's mine.....

The establishment absolutely will be willing to draw blood to accomplish their goals, they have done so, multiple times in the past. They are so blood thirsty they will actually instigate something to give them an excuse, as they have done in the past. Failing all of that, they will plant evidence ...

That is why, in some cases, we need to adapt the following creed, to protect our patriot leadership:

If sick, we will assume they were poisoned, If in an accident, we will assume it was arranged. If arrested, we will assume they were framed.

A moron DEMONRAT's idea for gun control:

https://www.newsmax.com/politics/tax-gun-democrats-midterm/2022/06/05/id/1073037/?ns_mail_uid=ed113837-94a1-4b8d-8fab-a7f206fd5031&ns_mail_job=DM340249_06062022&s=acs&dkt_nbr=010502281s9z

The Supreme Court just struck down New York's concealed carry law, now NY citizens don't need a special reason to conceal carry.

Old Drinkthekoolaid will be happy , but the old bitty demonrat Gov. said she plans on still fighting. I think the supreme court is the end of her fighting.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/supreme-court-strikes-down-new-york-gun-law-making-it-easier-for-americans-to-carry-handguns/ar-AAYMyBU

rick1 wrote:The Supreme Court just struck down New York's concealed carry law, now NY citizens don't need a special reason to conceal carry.

Old Drinkthekoolaid will be happy , but the old bitty demonrat Gov. said she plans on still fighting. I think the supreme court is the end of her fighting.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/supreme-court-strikes-down-new-york-gun-law-making-it-easier-for-americans-to-carry-handguns/ar-AAYMyBU

Seriously, as much as I'm glad 2nd amendment is upheld it's a two-edged sword. Bad guys without a record get same freedom.