Israel-Balfour Declaration

So the Balfour Declaration of 1947-48 ends, tonight. I've read about this before, but honestly don't understand it all. Can someone please explain to me what the end of the incorporation means to Israel, now?

(Thank you!)

Here are a couple of links for reference:

https://ussanews.com/2023/10/30/balfour-declaration-expires-on-october-31st-2023-2/

https://article.wn.com/view/2023/10/31/David_Mahoney_Discusses_Israel_Land_Lease_Expired_with_Nicho_2/

A decent article from 2018 that explains the Balfour Declaration was from 1917....

https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2018/11/2/more-than-a-century-on-the-balfour-declaration-explained

And a short Brittanica article confirming 1917

https://www.britannica.com/event/Balfour-Declaration

And a Harvard article on the history surrounding the declaration:

https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/martinkramer/files/forgotten_truth_balfour_declaration.pdf

Other than your links I can't find anything about 1947-1948 and the Balfour Declaration other than a section of the Harry S Truman library website:

https://www.trumanlibrary.gov/education/presidential-inquiries/recognition-israel

Honestly I hadn't even heard of the declaration before your post, so I can't give an informed opinion and just shared what I could find quickly.

Although I tend to discount articles with obvious falsehoods in them....

https://ussanews.com/2023/10/30/balfour-declaration-expires-on-october-31st-2023-2/

Israel registered themselves as a corporate entity in 1947. You cannot register a Corp twice under the same name in 2023 after 70+ years and it be accepted. Which means on October 31st Israel as a cooperation will expire.

Leaving aside the question of where Israel was supposedly registered as a corporation, there are MANY corporations older than 100 years.

According to Zippia.com in the US alone there are over 1000 companies older than 100 years.

dmwalsh568 wrote:...

Leaving aside the question of where Israel was supposedly registered as a corporation, there are MANY corporations older than 100 years.

According to Zippia.com in the US alone there are over 1000 companies older than 100 years.

I have to caution on two thing, here: there is a vast legal difference between company and corporation. Second is the urban myths about the "incorporation of the US government" that lead to the idea that one can opt out of being under their jurisdiction.

No, you can't.

And neither can the Palestinians "opt out" of being under the thumb of Israel.

Now, to more immediate matters. Most of these quotes are from questionable resources. The Britannica article does not mention either "corporation" or "expiration." In addition, it says it was edited in the past week, which brings up "trust," again.

In a distant, related matter, the deal made by Texas to join the US included provisions to secede. Can they? No, matters like that change after a war is fought.

I would contend that, after the wars of 1948, 1967, and 1973 (not to mention the various uprisings and intifadas) any sort of claim anyone else may have had on the land is nul and void.

What the de facto situation is: the people in Gaza are mostly people who came from other countries (mostly Egypt) or their descendants, for the purpose of making war against Israel. Most of the armies that came to fight Israel returned to their homes. Those in Gaza, Lebanon and the West Bank area, did not.

Over the years, those in Gaza, Lebanon and the West Bank have had uprising after uprising (called intifada) against Israel. Enough so, that they are now considered pesona non grata by all other Arab nations. They refuse to be peaceable, and other nations have always known, what is happening to Gaza could happen to them. (I have always said: something worse than going to war is, having war come to you.)

Eventually the West Bank pacified, somewhat. Conversely, Gaza chose to be ruled by Hamas and to continue the fight, and the fighters in Lebanon chose to support Hezbollah. In Lebanon, those who fight are a minority, but have a powerful fighting force. In Gaza, those who choose to fight are a major majority (almost everyone).

Those in Gaza live in a prison, of their own making, because they choose to be uncivilized, just like the felons in our own prisons. They are now reaping the reward for a life of crime against God's chosen people.

ReadyMom wrote:So the Balfour Declaration of 1947-48 ends, tonight. I've read about this before, but honestly don't understand it all. Can someone please explain to me what the end of the incorporation means to Israel, now?
(Thank you!)
Here are a couple of links for reference:
https://ussanews.com/2023/10/30/balfour-declaration-expires-on-october-31st-2023-2/

https://article.wn.com/view/2023/10/31/David_Mahoney_Discusses_Israel_Land_Lease_Expired_with_Nicho_2/

As a follow up. There is no "lease," and no expiration date or end of the incorporation.
Here is a fairly good article on the subject:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-41765892

The declaration by the then foreign secretary was included in a letter to Lord Walter Rothschild, a leading proponent of Zionism, a movement advocating self-determination for the Jewish people in their historical homeland - from the Mediterranean to the eastern flank of the River Jordan, an area which came to be known as Palestine.

It stated that the British government supported "the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people".

As a note, on a later statement in the article: Arabs didn't comprise 90% of the population, as one Arab states, unless you are talking about the population of the entire Arabian peninsula, not just the area of Israel.

Another follow up.

dmwalsh568 wrote:A decent article from 2018 that explains the Balfour Declaration was from 1917...
https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2018/11/2/more-than-a-century-on-the-balfour-declaration-explained
...

I just read through this article, and feel I should remind anyone reading this thread that anything you read in Al Jazeera is going to be one part truth, and one part propaganda. The news outlet tries to maintain a facade of honesty, but it is a thin one.

Here is what Conservapedia says about it:
https://www.conservapedia.com/Al-Jazeera

Al-Jazeera is basically Political Islam as a media arm of The Qatari State. It's a platform For Global Jihad; saturated with Anti-U.S. and Anti-West views; even Antisemitism and Holocaust denial; its coverage is supportive of Anti-Israel terrorist Groups.

Some things worth note:
There was no "ethinic cleansing" of Palestine in 1948, or any other time. (Although there might be, in the near future.) There was no Palestinian Society to destroy (there were certainly people, but they were more like tribes, and ruled by the Ottoman Empire, which was dissolved after WW1), and the creation of Israel was not a was a violent process that entailed the forced expulsion of hundreds of thousands of Palestinians from their homeland to establish a Jewish-majority state. (All of these are assertions of Al Jazeera, but are not factual.)

In fact, most of the people referred to as "Palestinians" are in fact Jordanian Arabs and Egyptians.

It was the uprisings and wars of 1921, 1929, 1936, 1948, 1967 and 1973 that resulted in most of the Arabs and Egyptians being removed from Israel, which expanded its borders each time it was attacked, mostly to gain buffer and prevent further attacks from the areas they annexed. The loss of land to Israel was a direct result of their failure to live in peace.

Many Jordanian Arabs and Egyptians still remain in Israel, and most of those get along with the Israelis, although I expect this to change in the near future.