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Post by rick1 Mon Dec 02, 2019 11:15 am

A good article worth reading about armed militias backing President Trump's tweets about a civil war and impeachment:


https://www.lawfareblog.com/armed-militias-are-taking-trumps-civil-war-tweets-seriously

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Post by TRex2 Mon Dec 02, 2019 1:41 pm

I think I am done editing the post above, and will continue below.

rick1 wrote:A good article worth reading about armed militias backing President Trump's tweets about a civil war and impeachment:
https://www.lawfareblog.com/armed-militias-are-taking-trumps-civil-war-tweets-seriously
Here are a few thoughts on that article. First, Pastor Jeffress post, that Trump re-tweeted, says "a Civil War like fracture" with like being the key word there. He isn't advocating violence, or even saying it will happen, but he is saying the country will never heal.

As for his incendiary language that this is a coup, he is simply being factual, something that the Lawfare blog has had a problem with, since he has been in office. (They used to be good.)

Being on the verge of a hot civil war, like 1859, is also factual, and has been the Oathkeepers stance since around 2013, when the Demoncrats were hell bent on passing unconstitutional laws, in the wake of Sandy Hook.

Oathkeepers is neutral, constitutionally, but in an age where both parties, and the Anti-Defamation League (who has abandoned their core mission in favor of Leftist politics), have skewed far to the Left, it does appear to their right.

Calling out the ACLU and SPLC (as well as the MSM) as propaganda organizations is crucial. As one person put it, after having one of their members suckered into an interview, where their comments were published out of context, "their methods are like radiator fluid to a dog."

I will not comment, at this time (and probably not in this forum) about anything in the article beyond the point where it begins to discuss the Border Patrol. Suffice it to say that judges and governments are not God.

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Post by Drinkthekoolaid Mon Dec 02, 2019 6:24 pm

TRex2 wrote:I think I am done editing the post above, and will continue below.

rick1 wrote:A good article worth reading about armed militias backing President Trump's tweets about a civil war and impeachment:
https://www.lawfareblog.com/armed-militias-are-taking-trumps-civil-war-tweets-seriously
Here are a few thoughts on that article. First, Pastor Jeffress post, that Trump re-tweeted, says "a Civil War like fracture" with like being the key word there. He isn't advocating violence, or even saying it will happen, but he is saying the country will never heal.

As for his incendiary language that this is a coup, he is simply being factual, something that the Lawfare blog has had a problem with, since he has been in office. (They used to be good.)

Being on the verge of a hot civil war, like 1859, is also factual, and has been the Oathkeepers stance since around 2013, when the Demoncrats were hell bent on passing unconstitutional laws, in the wake of Sandy Hook.

Oathkeepers is neutral, constitutionally, but in an age where both parties, and the Anti-Defamation League (who has abandoned their core mission in favor of Leftist politics), have skewed far to the Left, it does appear to their right.

Calling out the ACLU and SPLC (as well as the MSM) as propaganda organizations is crucial. As one person put it, after having one of their members suckered into an interview, where their comments were published out of context, "their methods are like radiator fluid to a dog."

I will not comment, at this time (and probably not in this forum) about anything in the article beyond the point where it begins to discuss the Border Patrol. Suffice it to say that judges and governments are not God.

This is a great post.

It does illustrate how much propoganda is being spewed by special interests and how far left everything has gone.

The oathkeepers have no political angle other than to support the Constitution. That's it. Yet, the left is attempting to discredit and disparage them. They want to invalidate and demonize a motivated group that is pro constitution.  That's all you should need to know. It's straight out of Saul Alinskys rules for radicals.

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Post by TRex2 Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:53 pm

This is both, a good sign, and a bad sign.
Good because it is a sign that Virginia isn't as lost as I thought, but bad because the Leftists in the Virginia government put us one step closer to civil war.

Not sure if this link will work, it refused my connection, since I am on a VPN.

https://www.gunsamerica.com/digest/20-virginia-counties-2a-sanctuaries
“Nothing even touches the activity in Virginia right now. A lot of gun owners were sleeping, but now they’ve woke the sleeping giant. All these gun owners that have been sound asleep have suddenly woken up.”

The numbers don’t lie. Of Virginia’s 133 counties and independent towns, 23 have already declared themselves Second Amendment sanctuaries, and another 53 are considering the measure.

“There are more coming,” Van Cleave predicted. “That number’s going to jump quite a bit.”

County Board of Supervisor meetings are literally overflowing with gun owners hoping to send a message to Richmond.

One thousand people showed up at a Board of Supervisors meeting in Shenandoah County, for example, and 700 people attended a meeting in Washington County. The meetings in Amherst and Amelia counties were standing-room-only with crowds flooding the hallways and the front laws.

On a larger scale, gun owners—when they show up—represent a massive voting block in state elections. Van Cleave pointed out that in a state of 8 million people, there are 2 million gun owners and 600,000 hold concealed carry permits.

Van Cleave admitted that when a county declares itself a Second Amendment sanctuary, the gesture is mostly symbolic from a legal standpoint. While all county employees, including any police force, are bound by the resolution, sheriffs and county attorneys are independently elected in Virginia.

But Van Cleave also pointed out that many sheriffs follow the county’s lead, and many others have independently vowed not to enforce new gun control.

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Post by Drinkthekoolaid Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:16 pm

TRex2 wrote:This is both, a good sign, and a bad sign.
Good because it is a sign that Virginia isn't as lost as I thought, but bad because the Leftists in the Virginia government put us one step closer to civil war.

Not sure if this link will work, it refused my connection, since I am on a VPN.

https://www.gunsamerica.com/digest/20-virginia-counties-2a-sanctuaries
“Nothing even touches the activity in Virginia right now. A lot of gun owners were sleeping, but now they’ve woke the sleeping giant. All these gun owners that have been sound asleep have suddenly woken up.”

The numbers don’t lie. Of Virginia’s 133 counties and independent towns, 23 have already declared themselves Second Amendment sanctuaries, and another 53 are considering the measure.

“There are more coming,” Van Cleave predicted. “That number’s going to jump quite a bit.”

County Board of Supervisor meetings are literally overflowing with gun owners hoping to send a message to Richmond.

One thousand people showed up at a Board of Supervisors meeting in Shenandoah County, for example, and 700 people attended a meeting in Washington County. The meetings in Amherst and Amelia counties were standing-room-only with crowds flooding the hallways and the front laws.

On a larger scale, gun owners—when they show up—represent a massive voting block in state elections. Van Cleave pointed out that in a state of 8 million people, there are 2 million gun owners and 600,000 hold concealed carry permits.

Van Cleave admitted that when a county declares itself a Second Amendment sanctuary, the gesture is mostly symbolic from a legal standpoint. While all county employees, including any police force, are bound by the resolution, sheriffs and county attorneys are independently elected in Virginia.

But Van Cleave also pointed out that many sheriffs follow the county’s lead, and many others have independently vowed not to enforce new gun control.

Here is another similar article and story about a Virginia county telling the state to go pound sand

https://wvva.com/2019/12/03/tazewell-county-becomes-second-amendment-sanctuary/

I might be over thinking it, but reading that article it sure seems to imply they are preparing a militia to protect their 2nd amendment rights...

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Post by ReadyMom Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:13 pm

RE Last two posts ... Not sure what is ahead, in that state, this scares me because our son is in the midst of moving to Richmond. Neutral

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Post by Drinkthekoolaid Fri Dec 06, 2019 2:01 pm

ReadyMom wrote:RE Last two posts ... Not sure what is ahead, in that state, this scares me because our son is in the midst of moving to Richmond. Neutral

Sorry not trying to scare you




Here is a headline just today from the left

https://news.yahoo.com/pelosi-potential-trump-reelection-civilization-033157058.html

They are literally saying out loud civilization as they want it is at stake. They are telling us what they want and think.

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Post by TRex2 Fri Dec 06, 2019 3:59 pm

Those pulling the strings behind the Left have been engaged in a war against American and Christian values for decades, and openly engaged in that struggle since Desert Storm (1991).

Much of their network has been cataloged on "discoverthenetworks.com" but the MSM, the Muslim Brotherhood and the Deep State have worked hard and worked together to keep US citizens in the dark.

As an example, if you will recall, the San Bernadino Christmas party shooting, and the Nidal Hason shooting on Ft Hood, both of which were Islamist Terror attacks, got whitewashed in the media, and the one on Ft Hood, even the first report from official investigation was a whitewash.

I think it would be wise for anyone working in any area largely controlled by Demoncrats to have an exit strategy, and an emergency exit strategy. The first being a plan to move at an opportune time, and the second to move suddenly if things go sideways.

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Post by Drinkthekoolaid Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:53 pm

TRex2 wrote:Those pulling the strings behind the Left have been engaged in a war against American and Christian values for decades, and openly engaged in that struggle since Desert Storm (1991).

Much of their network has been cataloged on "discoverthenetworks.com" but the MSM, the Muslim Brotherhood and the Deep State have worked hard and worked together to keep US citizens in the dark.

As an example, if you will recall, the San Bernadino Christmas party shooting, and the Nidal Hason shooting on Ft Hood, both of which were  Islamist Terror attacks, got whitewashed in the media, and the one on Ft Hood, even the first report from official investigation was a whitewash.

I think it would be wise for anyone working in any area largely controlled by Demoncrats to have an exit strategy, and an emergency exit strategy. The first being a plan to move at an opportune time, and the second to move suddenly if things go sideways.

Agreed. And now the latest Navy base shooting was committed by a Saudi national. Yup.





I encourage everyone reading this thread to watch this pastor Joe Viking preparedness video on this exact topic.

It's thought provoking. A lot of what he talks about are the same ideas that we have discussed here in this thread and on this forum.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AdKxMXkWbG4&t=16s

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Post by Dave58 Fri Dec 06, 2019 5:29 pm

Drinkthekoolaid wrote:
TRex2 wrote:Those pulling the strings behind the Left have been engaged in a war against American and Christian values for decades, and openly engaged in that struggle since Desert Storm (1991).

Much of their network has been cataloged on "discoverthenetworks.com" but the MSM, the Muslim Brotherhood and the Deep State have worked hard and worked together to keep US citizens in the dark.

As an example, if you will recall, the San Bernadino Christmas party shooting, and the Nidal Hason shooting on Ft Hood, both of which were  Islamist Terror attacks, got whitewashed in the media, and the one on Ft Hood, even the first report from official investigation was a whitewash.

I think it would be wise for anyone working in any area largely controlled by Demoncrats to have an exit strategy, and an emergency exit strategy. The first being a plan to move at an opportune time, and the second to move suddenly if things go sideways.

Agreed.  And now the latest Navy base shooting was committed by a Saudi national. Yup.





I encourage everyone reading this thread to watch this pastor Joe Viking preparedness video on this exact topic.  

It's thought provoking.  A lot of what he talks about are the same ideas that we have discussed here in this thread and on this forum.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AdKxMXkWbG4&t=16s

I try to watch all of pastor Joe's video's he make a lot of sense.. The video about the upcoming Civil War is pretty good, also the Book called The Fate of Empires by John Glubb looks like it will be worth reading

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Post by TRex2 Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:13 pm

Drinkthekoolaid wrote:
Agreed.  And now the latest Navy base shooting was committed by a Saudi national. Yup.
First, I will say that I like Pastor Joe Fox often, but can't say that I watch all of his videos, as I just don't have time. COOHMP? Yes.

Now, about the Saudi's. Americans are being deceived there too, because they don't know history. There are two competing factions in Saudi Arabia. The Saud's and the Wahhabi's. They have been in a cold civil war, just like the Socialists and the Patriots here in the US, for a hundred years, or more.  

The real reason that Khashoggi was killed has been ignored. Here is the whitewash story.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-45812399

The real story? He was Wahhabi.
Let us be clear: He was and Al Q'ada operative, but they couldn't prove it in court.

The rest of the world isn't like the US.
The Saudi prince did us a favor.

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Post by Drinkthekoolaid Sun Dec 08, 2019 10:33 am

Here is the Virginia attorney general's statement on 2a sanctuary counties.

https://wtvr.com/2019/12/06/attorney-general-virginia-2nd-amendment-sanctuary-01/


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Post by TRex2 Sun Dec 08, 2019 4:43 pm

General Gage and his henchmen should reconsider their stance on this issue, before we get a repeat of April 1775.

This is a war that the Left has already started, but it will ignite, for real, when people in large numbers realize they cannot defend their rights when the Jackboots are at their door, but rather, they must pick up their arms, to defend their rights, when the Jackboots are at the doors of their friends and neighbors.

Is this going to happen next year? Or ten years from now? I don't know, but we are on a collision course with destiny. No nation or kingdom has ever gone down this road and survived. (sigh.)

I hate to see us heading down this road, and have warned people on both sides what will lay ahead (the wreckage of our country) if we do not change course, but the Left is unwavering in its pursuit of our destruction, to the point that they are as much of a threat as N. Korea. Should they continue on this course, they will eventually rouse the dragon from its comfort, and send him out to battle.

I guess I had better put up some more food stores...
When the collapse happens, it is going to make for a miserable season.

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Post by rick1 Sun Dec 08, 2019 5:25 pm

TRex2 wrote:General Gage and his henchmen should reconsider their stance on this issue, before we get a repeat of April 1775.

This is a war that the Left has already started, but it will ignite, for real, when people in large numbers realize they cannot defend their rights when the Jackboots are at their door, but rather, they must pick up their arms, to defend their rights, when the Jackboots are at the doors of their friends and neighbors.

Is this going to happen next year? Or ten years from now? I don't know, but we are on a collision course with destiny. No nation or kingdom has ever gone down this road and survived. (sigh.)

I hate to see us heading down this road, and have warned people on both sides what will lay ahead (the wreckage of our country) if we do not change course, but the Left is unwavering in its pursuit of our destruction, to the point that they are as much of a threat as N. Korea.  Should they continue on this course, they will eventually rouse the dragon from its comfort, and send him out to battle.

I guess I had better put up some more food stores...
When the collapse happens, it is going to make for a miserable season.

Oh, and don't forget your guns and tons and tons of ammo. You'll need it to protect them there food stores. Cheers2

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Post by Drinkthekoolaid Sun Dec 08, 2019 7:02 pm

TRex2 wrote:General Gage and his henchmen should reconsider their stance on this issue, before we get a repeat of April 1775.

This is a war that the Left has already started, but it will ignite, for real, when people in large numbers realize they cannot defend their rights when the Jackboots are at their door, but rather, they must pick up their arms, to defend their rights, when the Jackboots are at the doors of their friends and neighbors.

Is this going to happen next year? Or ten years from now? I don't know, but we are on a collision course with destiny. No nation or kingdom has ever gone down this road and survived. (sigh.)

I hate to see us heading down this road, and have warned people on both sides what will lay ahead (the wreckage of our country) if we do not change course, but the Left is unwavering in its pursuit of our destruction, to the point that they are as much of a threat as N. Korea.  Should they continue on this course, they will eventually rouse the dragon from its comfort, and send him out to battle.

I guess I had better put up some more food stores...
When the collapse happens, it is going to make for a miserable season.


What concerns me most... Is put it in this perspective. This is our world today, with a republican president and Senate. SCOTUS is as conservative as we can hope for since RBG seems intent on living until the next dem president.

The right has been in control the past few years and at best we've been a speed bump. They haven't weilded power and enacted their doctrine. They have been subverted from inside and outside or just flat out wimped out. The recent conservative congress was very disappointing.

Think back to the Obama years. How authoritarian they started to become. Weaponizing the IRS to Target conservative groups, Chicago thug gang politics, remember how they flat out lied rammed through whatever political laws programs or policies they wanted? The left knows how to use power and they crave it. They are vengeful and angry. When they have a super majority again they are going to become very authoritarian big government in a hurry. They are going to push hard. Think back to events like the Bundy ranch standoff and the malheuer standoff. That was before all this corruption has been confirmed and validated.

There is a pretty significant amount of Patriotic Americans out there who have seen the corruption for what it is.

President Trump's 2 greatest accomplishments are; many conservative court appointments in Lower courts, circuit courts and SCOTUS. His other biggest accomplishment is that he exposes our government for everyone objectively and honestly looking at it. It is corrupt and rigged. He put it on full display and they showed their motives and goals. There is an entire group of Patriotic Americans who know have made up their moral convictions on what they know is right and wrong and who the enemies of freedom are.

When the left pushes too far it won't be against a group that just rolls over and takes it anymore. President Trump woke enough people up.

I think it's too late to put the preverbial genie back in the bottle. I don't see days of unification in our near future.


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Post by Drinkthekoolaid Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:46 am

With all the rioting and unrest I think this deserves some re-visiting.

This is a great video to give people an insight into what might be going on.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sXMtWZOy_hI

This video was made just weeks before the rioting and I think it's very timely and spot on.

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Post by TRex2 Fri Jun 26, 2020 3:35 pm

For some odd reason, this thread is sticking the newest post at the top.
Drinkthekoolaid wrote:With all the rioting and unrest I think this deserves some re-visiting.
This is a great video to give people an insight into what might be going on.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sXMtWZOy_hI
This video was made just weeks before the rioting and I think it's very timely and spot on.
I see you are already aware of Forward Observer. This guy is in the who's who of the Intel community. He worked for Uncle Sam until about 10 years ago, and has written some books on the subject. Not light reading, and not in my price range (his books are over $100). Intel Analysis is what he does for a living.

He has begun doing a weekly briefing, about 30 min to an hour, every Monday, for YouTube. The rest of his stuff is on a pay channel. His free stuff is highly recommended, or you can just wait for me or maybe DTKA to summarize it for you  Laughing since I am going to do that, anyway  Cool

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Post by ReadyMom Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:20 pm

TRex2 wrote:For some odd reason, this thread is sticking the newest post at the top.

I fixed it!

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Post by TRex2 Sat Jun 27, 2020 7:51 am

As the riots and insurgency have grown over the past few weeks, it is time to revisit and expand on some of what I wrote here.
TRex2 wrote:Those pulling the strings behind the Left have been engaged in a war against American and Christian values for decades, and openly engaged in that struggle since Desert Storm (1991).
I think it is obvious, by now, that this isn't just some grassroots protesters movement. As the information in the Tommy Vext video shows, this is orchestrated by outsiders and Global Elitests.
See video here: https://emergencyhomeprep.forumotion.com/t1768-national-protests-for-george-floyd#9310

Much of their network has been cataloged on "discoverthenetworks.com" but the MSM, the Muslim Brotherhood and the Deep State have worked hard and worked together to keep US citizens in the dark.
One change here: the web site is now a dot org website, but the dot com link will still work, but links mostly to archived versions of the pages.
Here is a good place to start:
https://www.discoverthenetworks.org/organizations/black-lives-matter-blm


I think it would be wise for anyone working in any area largely controlled by Demoncrats to have an exit strategy, and an emergency exit strategy. The first being a plan to move at an opportune time, and the second to move suddenly if things go sideways.
This may be making itself apparent to some of the people on here, as they observe the difference between some big cities and smaller towns. It should be noted that these riots only happen in places that tolerate, or even encourage them.

I have a list inside my head of things that are red flags (and some yellow flags) about living in some areas. The first is: the 30 largest cities in the US are all controlled by Demoncrats, and all have allowed or encouraged rioting inside their cities.

If you live within 30 miles (driving distance) of one of the cities that allowed the rioters to riot all night long for more than three days (there are more than 30 cities) it is past time to move. If you live within 60 miles (driving distance), and within 100 yards of a paved road, it is time to move (I will explain more about this, if asked).

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Post by rick1 Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:24 am

Hey TRex, let me know when they get within 100 miles of a major city and within 1/4 mile of a paved road, I may have to move a little further inland. White Flag

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Post by TRex2 Sat Jun 27, 2020 2:43 pm

rick1 wrote:Hey TRex, let me know when they get within 100 miles of a major city and within 1/4 mile of a paved road, I may have to move a little further inland. White Flag
You look to be about 100 miles from the edge of Pittsburgh, which is plenty far enough, but that is only the first item.

Next, look at your Sheriff, the guy (or two guys) who represents you in Harrisburg, and the guy who represents you in Washington. Lastly, look at your local judges, DA, senators and governor.

If any two of the above are Demoncrat, it is time to move.

Third is demographics of your local area. Would dangerous people find it easy to blend in? That gets into a whole lot of different discussion about gangs, gang signs, tattoos, patches on jackets, and stuff.

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Post by rick1 Sat Jun 27, 2020 4:01 pm

TRex2 wrote:
rick1 wrote:Hey TRex, let me know when they get within 100 miles of a major city and within 1/4 mile of a paved road, I may have to move a little further inland. White Flag
You look to be about 100 miles from the edge of Pittsburgh, which is plenty far enough, but that is only the first item.

Next, look at your Sheriff, the guy (or two guys) who represents you in Harrisburg, and the guy who represents you in Washington. Lastly, look at your local judges, DA, senators and governor.

If any two of the above are Demoncrat, it is time to move.

Third is  demographics of your local area. Would dangerous people find it easy to blend in? That gets into a whole lot of different discussion about gangs, gang signs, tattoos, patches on jackets, and stuff.

I'm in good shape, sheriff is a R, judges are a mix of R and D, DA is a R and reps in Harrisburg and 1 senator are all republicans, we do have a senator from the eastern PA area (Casey) that's a D in Washington but he is not well liked in are area, he gets boooooooed all the time when he visits and that's only once a year or so.

Governor is a big D, they voted to start impeachment on him for killing thousands of the elderly by putting in elderly covid patients in the nursing homes, just like they did in NY, CT, Mass. and Delaware (all of which are D's), does that tell you something about demonrats. They're not democrats, they're demonrats. devil

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I think I need rick on my speed dial, lol! My biggest worry is we're within 'hearing the motors' of 81, on a clear night distance.

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Post by rick1 Sat Jun 27, 2020 5:47 pm

ReadyMom wrote:I think I need rick on my speed dial, lol! My biggest worry is we're within 'hearing the motors' of 81, on a clear night distance.

RM, speed dial, what's that, just get a helicopter and fly on out my way. Living near a major highway isn't good. Interstate 80 to your north, highway 30 to your south, major, major highways, let alone the state capitol in your backyard.

I've tried for years to get my wife to move to Potter or Tioga counties, deep in the mountains, off grid, but she just won't do it. I remember Potter county had only 1 red light in the entire county, they've since put in another one because they have a sheetz store there now.

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Post by TRex2 Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:23 pm

Highly polarized state, moderately dense population.
https://www.inquirer.com/politics/inq/pennsylvania-polarization-election-results-democrats-republicans-trends-map-20190207.html
Not the worst place to be, but there is the threat that the Lefties in the Cities will try to tell the citizens in the countryside how to live their lives.

I am in a Red State, with lower population density, and we have that problem, here.

It happens in every state, but as the number of Demoncrats rises towards 50%, the tendency gets worse. PA has one (D) senator, and for now, a (D) governor, so the split is very close to 50%.

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Post by Blondie Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:09 pm

Bugging out can take long term planning. I've done it.

Where do you want to go? Costs involved? Tough to find a job that pays well if you or family members need to work. Don't be surprised if you're not welcomed in your new location.

Then as Rick said you encounter resistance from the spouse/SO who won't budge. It's an usually an emotional response with almost no logic.

The other issue that I'm seeing is home prices here are skyrocketing. Worse than 06-07. Then came the crash of '08.

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Post by TRex2 Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:12 am

This isn't really a good article, as it presents a Leftist view of the movement.
(But, after doing a search, I can see that finding an article from someone who really understands what is going on, is not trivial. I will try to find a more thorough discussion of them. Probably from Forward Observer.)

Alternate Article. This one is just a bit better, and presents the view from the Center Right.  
https://rairfoundation.com/dept-of-homeland-security-smacks-down-politico-lie-no-the-boogaloo-movement-is-not-far-right/
The Politico article referenced an Intel report by the DHS dated June 15 warning that “recent events indicate violent adherents of the Boogaloo ideology likely reside in the National Capital Region, and others may be willing to travel far distances to incite civil unrest or conduct violence encouraged in online forums associated with the movement.” It appears that the DHS report stated that the Boogaloo movement is comprised of people with a “violent extremist ideology” but did not specify where they lie on the political spectrum.

“Another work of fiction by @politico,” the DHS tweeted on Saturday. “The @DHSgov intel bulletin does NOT identify the Boogaloo movement as left-wing OR right-wing. They are simply violent extremists from both ends of the ideological spectrum.”

Reality is that the movement isn't comprised of a single idea, ideology, or group.
It is a realization that the US is heading into a civil war, and whether you are for that or against it, if you realize it, you are part of the Boogaloo movement.

That said, there are some who want to cash in on free publicity by co opting the name, so you have people like the Boogaloo Bois, and a rash of others, but the movement, itself, is simply acknowledging the inevitable.  

Blondie wrote:Bugging out can take long term planning. I've done it.

Where do you want to go? Costs involved? Tough to find a job that pays well if you or family members need to work. Don't be surprised if you're not welcomed in your new location.

Then as Rick said you encounter resistance from the spouse/SO who won't budge. It's an usually an emotional response with almost no logic.

The other issue that I'm seeing is home prices here are skyrocketing. Worse than 06-07. Then came the crash of '08.
Technically, "bugging out" is when you pack up and go (generally in less than a day, or at most, a week), and everything you leave behind, you count as lost. Yes, that is real expensive. It is what you do when you find out that a hostile national army has decided your property is not theirs, or what you do when you discover that the mountain you live on (think: Mt. St. Helens) is an erupting volcano.

I did a sudden move to the Ozarks 30 months ago, spending a few months researching it, and a few more doing it, and the cost was several thousand dollars, so yes, that is expensive too.

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Post by Dave58 Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:25 pm

This could very well be how it starts...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8471219/One-man-dead-wounded-Seattle-CHOP-zone-shooting.htm

Their are some very upset people right now because their kids got killed.. They know that the police are not going to do anything about this... If it was my kids at some point I would be looking for payback....

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Post by Drinkthekoolaid Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:49 pm

This just happened. Yesterday, on independence day in Georgia.

https://youtu.be/z-PmzOcuK5A


Yup I would say we're one step closer

Crickets from the media. If this was an equally armed white group marching in a black neighborhood to intimidate black people it would be wall to wall coverage.

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Post by ReadyMom Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:22 pm

Drinkthekoolaid wrote:This just happened. Yesterday, on independence day in Georgia.

https://youtu.be/z-PmzOcuK5A


Yup I would say we're one step closer

Crickets from the media. If this was an equally armed white group marching in a black neighborhood to intimidate black people it would be wall to wall coverage.

I saw that video about midnight, last night. What you posted is only HALF of the original video! It's been sanitized. You should see the rest of it! Surprised Surprised Surprised  I trasncribed two pieces. They were the parts that were scrubbed. It's BAD. I was shocked! Scared. I'll PM you, if you want to know what he said. I'm NOT posting in a public forum. Don't want to be party to riling people up into a war state.

Edited to add: I wish I had downloaded the original. Totally forgot to do so.

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Post by rick1 Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:24 pm

But, but, why aren't they marching in Chicago where most of murders happen.

You know why!!!

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Post by ReadyMom Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:26 pm

rick1 wrote:But, but, why aren't they marching in Chicago where most of murders happen.

You know why!!!

Apparently this group was marching in KKK country and they were calling out the KKK. Didn't sound like it to me when they were talking about 'all the white people'.

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Post by rick1 Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:33 pm

ReadyMom wrote:
rick1 wrote:But, but, why aren't they marching in Chicago where most of murders happen.

You know why!!!

Apparently this group was marching in KKK country and they were calling out the KKK. Didn't sound like it to me when they were talking about 'all the white people'.

I know the KKK exists, but aren't they basically history anymore. One thing about this is they'll do in the city and suburbs but they won't do it in the small country towns.

Bet they wouldn't do it in small hill town West Virginia or PA where the population is only a few hundred to a few thousands!!!!!

And as far as the fake news media, it doesn't fit their narrative.

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Post by ReadyMom Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:37 pm

rick1 wrote:

I know the KKK exists, but aren't they basically history anymore. One thing about this is they'll do in the city and suburbs but they won't do it in the small country towns. .

KKK Groups Still Active in These States in 2017
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/articles/2017-08-14/the-kkk-is-still-based-in-22-states-in-the-us-in-2017

Is the Ku Klux Klan still active in the 21st Century?
https://www.quora.com/Is-the-Ku-Klux-Klan-still-active-in-the-21st-Century?share=1

From 2017:
‘Still a threat to society’: KKK remain active in 33 states – report
https://www.rt.com/usa/393638-kkk-active-adl-report-us/

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Post by Drinkthekoolaid Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:51 pm

ReadyMom wrote:
Drinkthekoolaid wrote:This just happened. Yesterday, on independence day in Georgia.

https://youtu.be/z-PmzOcuK5A


Yup I would say we're one step closer

Crickets from the media. If this was an equally armed white group marching in a black neighborhood to intimidate black people it would be wall to wall coverage.

I saw that video about midnight, last night. What you posted is only HALF of the original video! It's been sanitized. You should see the rest of it! Surprised Surprised Surprised  I trasncribed two pieces. They were the parts that were scrubbed. It's BAD. I was shocked! Scared. I'll PM you, if you want to know what he said. I'm NOT posting in a public forum. Don't want to be party to riling people up into a war state.  

Edited to add: I wish I had downloaded the original. Totally forgot to do so.

Pm me please

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Post by rick1 Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:54 pm

ReadyMom wrote:
rick1 wrote:

I know the KKK exists, but aren't they basically history anymore. One thing about this is they'll do in the city and suburbs but they won't do it in the small country towns. .

KKK Groups Still Active in These States in 2017
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/articles/2017-08-14/the-kkk-is-still-based-in-22-states-in-the-us-in-2017

Is the Ku Klux Klan still active in the 21st Century?
https://www.quora.com/Is-the-Ku-Klux-Klan-still-active-in-the-21st-Century?share=1

From 2017:
‘Still a threat to society’: KKK remain active in 33 states – report
https://www.rt.com/usa/393638-kkk-active-adl-report-us/

I agree with ya ReadyMom, they do exist but are few now, even though they're in 33 states, their membership, according to one of your articles, is only around 3,000. Of course that's enough to cause headaches.

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Post by Dave58 Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:23 pm

Drinkthekoolaid wrote:
ReadyMom wrote:
Drinkthekoolaid wrote:This just happened. Yesterday, on independence day in Georgia.

https://youtu.be/z-PmzOcuK5A


Yup I would say we're one step closer

Crickets from the media. If this was an equally armed white group marching in a black neighborhood to intimidate black people it would be wall to wall coverage.

I saw that video about midnight, last night. What you posted is only HALF of the original video! It's been sanitized. You should see the rest of it! Surprised Surprised Surprised  I trasncribed two pieces. They were the parts that were scrubbed. It's BAD. I was shocked! Scared. I'll PM you, if you want to know what he said. I'm NOT posting in a public forum. Don't want to be party to riling people up into a war state.  

Edited to add: I wish I had downloaded the original. Totally forgot to do so.

Pm me please

RM pm me pls I would like to hear /read what they had to say on the rest of the video

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Post by ReadyMom Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:25 pm

Oke ... pm's coming your way. It's just a few sentences from 2 short clips. The rest of the original 60 min video is much the same as the for first 30 min they kept. Marching & bantering.

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Post by Blondie Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:04 pm

I only saw what ZH posted, seems YT wants you to login so they know who's interested.

Doesn't appear any militias were anywhere in sight. These people were largely ignored. Gotta agree with a ZH poster. Someone will infiltrate this group to identify people. Then instead of confrontation and bloodshed, their monthly benefits will mysteriously begin to disappear. It happened in regional outages a few years ago.

You really want to mess with someone these days? Disconnect them. Benefit check, EBT, Medicaid card. And if you buy your vehicle at the Buy Here, Pay Here place, well, they can shut that off remotely, too.

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Post by rick1 Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:38 pm

I put this here, don't know if it belongs here, so if it doesn't go ahead and move it ReadyMom:

Do protesters get paid to protest? Don't know, but here's an article on it:


https://www.cracked.com/personal-experiences-2476-i-know-paid-protesters-are-real-because-im-one-them.html

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Geees Dave, just can't understand why Gov. Kemp would want the national guard to protect the Gov's mansion?

There was a saying when I was in Vietnam, "If you're scared, say you're scared"

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Post by Dave58 Mon Jul 06, 2020 7:03 pm

rick1 wrote:

Geees Dave, just can't understand why Gov. Kemp would want the national guard to protect the Gov's mansion?

There was a saying when I was in Vietnam, "If you're scared, say you're scared"

I agree there is no shame in being scared...

I can tell you what I am scared of.. If they don't stop this soon I don't think they will be able to control or contain it. The leader of the little walk at stone mountain.. I think he calls himself Grand Master Jay is all over the net... There are going to be alot of wanna be hero's cling to him..

I just about bet that somebody with a real deep pocket is funding this little circus... Its going to be a mess

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Post by rick1 Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:48 pm

Dave58 wrote:
rick1 wrote:

Geees Dave, just can't understand why Gov. Kemp would want the national guard to protect the Gov's mansion?

There was a saying when I was in Vietnam, "If you're scared, say you're scared"

I agree there is no shame in being scared...

I can tell you what I am scared of.. If they don't stop this soon I don't think they will be able to control or contain it.  The leader of the little walk at stone mountain.. I think he calls himself Grand Master Jay is all over the net... There are going to be alot of wanna be hero's cling to him..

I just about bet that somebody with a real deep pocket is funding this little circus...  Its going to be a mess

I agree, I'm sure that the Fed's are following the money and it will be a bloodbath before it's all over, just like it was back in the '60's.

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Post by TRex2 Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:02 am

rick1 wrote:
Dave58 wrote:...
I just about bet that somebody with a real deep pocket is funding this little circus...  Its going to be a mess
I agree, I'm sure that the Fed's are following the money and it will be a bloodbath before it's all over, just like it was back in the '60's.
Some of us are aware of where the money is coming from, but don't expect the "fed" to be of any help.

Watch the video from Viking Preparedness and think about what he is saying.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-RGC7HNi_0
It is 19 minutes long.

There was a saying when I was in Vietnam, "If you're scared, say you're scared"
Patton said that if you are intelligent, you are scared. He kinda equated being fearless to being brainless.

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Post by Dave58 Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:17 am

TRex2 wrote:
rick1 wrote:
Dave58 wrote:...
I just about bet that somebody with a real deep pocket is funding this little circus...  Its going to be a mess
I agree, I'm sure that the Fed's are following the money and it will be a bloodbath before it's all over, just like it was back in the '60's.
Some of us are aware of where the money is coming from, but don't expect the "fed" to be of any help.

Watch the video from Viking Preparedness and think about what he is saying.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-RGC7HNi_0
It is 19 minutes long.

There was a saying when I was in Vietnam, "If you're scared, say you're scared"
Patton said that if you are intelligent, you are scared. He kinda equated being fearless to being brainless.

I just watched a show on Amazon Prime called Amerigeddon... I lot of it looked pretty realistic it a good watch PopCorn

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Post by Dave58 Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:22 am

TRex2 wrote:
rick1 wrote:
Dave58 wrote:...
I just about bet that somebody with a real deep pocket is funding this little circus...  Its going to be a mess
I agree, I'm sure that the Fed's are following the money and it will be a bloodbath before it's all over, just like it was back in the '60's.
Some of us are aware of where the money is coming from, but don't expect the "fed" to be of any help.

Watch the video from Viking Preparedness and think about what he is saying.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-RGC7HNi_0
It is 19 minutes long.

There was a saying when I was in Vietnam, "If you're scared, say you're scared"
Patton said that if you are intelligent, you are scared. He kinda equated being fearless to being brainless.

My wife and I both like Pastor Joe we watch a lot of his videos

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Post by Drinkthekoolaid Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:09 pm

TRex2 wrote:
rick1 wrote:
Dave58 wrote:...
I just about bet that somebody with a real deep pocket is funding this little circus...  Its going to be a mess
I agree, I'm sure that the Fed's are following the money and it will be a bloodbath before it's all over, just like it was back in the '60's.
Some of us are aware of where the money is coming from, but don't expect the "fed" to be of any help.

Watch the video from Viking Preparedness and think about what he is saying.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-RGC7HNi_0
It is 19 minutes long.

There was a saying when I was in Vietnam, "If you're scared, say you're scared"
Patton said that if you are intelligent, you are scared. He kinda equated being fearless to being brainless.


Thanks for sharing the video.

I wish I could find fault in his opinions and conclusions but I'm sad to say I think Pastor Joe is spot on.

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Post by Drinkthekoolaid Sun Jul 12, 2020 4:25 pm

I stumbled across this video.

It has an excellent message. It's long but a good listen. (Warning there is swearing and harsh language)

Mike is a former special forces green beret who made a career of fighting insurgencies. He knows what he's talking about.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NpuZAylcuno

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Nice video Drink.  Cheers2

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I love Sam culper videos and this one doesn't disappoint. It's excellent.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VS8MB_M2gLc&t=293s

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Post by rick1 Sat Aug 01, 2020 8:50 am

Drinkthekoolaid wrote:I love Sam culper videos and this one doesn't disappoint.  It's excellent.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VS8MB_M2gLc&t=293s

I agree Drink, it's coming. Buy a lot of long term food, if you don't plant a garden, learn how now and buy your seeds.

Will it be an economic collapse, a social collapse, a political rebellion, a try at a government take over, maybe a combination of all four? Who knows.

Oh and buy lots and lots of ammo, you'll need it to defend yourself and your family and friends.

Even the great Roman empire collapsed.

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Post by Cinnamon Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:09 am

If any of you are former Redditors - TheDonald spun off and created their own forum. They are doing countermeasures to circumvent the Big Tech crushing of conservative websites.

www.thedonald.win

While it started out as a pro-Donald site, they're now branching out into a conservative news source. They're reporting on things that the MSM will not report. They're uploading relevant videos from the protests to Bitchute, rather than YouTube, which keeps scrubbing any video that portrays the left in a bad light.

Of course, as with any website - take some of what you read with a grain of salt, but there are some nuggets of truth.

Also be aware, the site is conservative, mostly Christian, and huge Trump fans.

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Post by Drinkthekoolaid Wed Aug 05, 2020 9:46 am

This is another EXCELLENT Sam culper video

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h5fZNnu2Tqo

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Post by Dave58 Mon Aug 31, 2020 10:22 am

I thought this gentleman had a pretty interesting view...

https://youtu.be/beO7FR5GzSU

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