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Basically, Russia's and China's newest "hypersonic" missiles are simply ICBM's with the ability to maneuver in mid and late course flight (previous ones had very limited ability for coarse correction).rick1 wrote:China developed a missile that travels 25 times the speed of sound (mach 25) and can reach the U.S. in 30 minutes with 10 nuclear warheads attached. I don't think the U.S. has any defense against this one:
https://www.foxnews.com/world/china-parade-beijing-military-nuclear-capable-missile
Our defense against any Intermediate or Intercontinental ballistic missile is iffy, and this maneuvering ability just makes things worse for us. Now we won't even be sure where the targets are until the missile reenters the atmosphere.
It is truly bad, although it won't surprise me to have to constantly correct the MSM on the science of why it is bad.
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Wait, China Has TWO Hypersonic Missiles?
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/wait-china-has-two-hypersonic-missiles-101422
China is testing two hypersonic surface-to-surface missiles and not one as previously reported, state media claimed. If true, the development of a second munition capable of traveling at least five times the speed of sound while maneuvering could weigh on the balance of power in the Pacific region. ---CONTINUED---
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The bad news is that there is no guarantee that they won't decide to "go down in flames," and take us with them.
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https://theprint.in/defence/china-deploys-long-range-rocket-launchers-in-western-theatre-command-as-deterrent-to-india/642830/
A report in PLA Daily says the brigade is located 5,200m above sea level in the Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region, but does not specify the type or firing range of the weapon.
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Weird the news has failed to report such outrageous war mongering statements of their commie overlords.
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Drinkthekoolaid wrote:China just recently threatened to nuke Japan and warned the US and Taiwan to be ready to be crushed at any moment.
Weird the news has failed to report such outrageous war mongering statements of their commie overlords.
No surprise Drink, the fake news media is in joe crow's left pocket and joe crow, his family and major corporations are in China's right pocket
China loves to fear monger, they're testing joe crow and his minions, and sleepy joe is at sleep at the wheel. We may be in trouble.
In another thread, I said if I were China and Russia, I would take Hong Kong, Taiwan, and if joe crow does nothing, then it would be Guam and Hawaii. CHECK MATE.
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Drinkthekoolaid wrote:China just recently threatened to nuke Japan and warned the US and Taiwan to be ready to be crushed at any moment.
Weird the news has failed to report such outrageous war mongering statements of their commie overlords.
Britain to permanently deploy two warships in Asian waters
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/britain-to-permanently-deploy-two-warships-in-asian-waters/ar-AAMm844?ocid=iehp&li=BBnb7Kz
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ReadyMom wrote:Drinkthekoolaid wrote:China just recently threatened to nuke Japan and warned the US and Taiwan to be ready to be crushed at any moment.
Weird the news has failed to report such outrageous war mongering statements of their commie overlords.
Britain to permanently deploy two warships in Asian waters
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/britain-to-permanently-deploy-two-warships-in-asian-waters/ar-AAMm844?ocid=iehp&li=BBnb7Kz
Everybody is positioning themselves ....
Better get ready for a long dark winter...
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Shouldn't Australia have set off warning sirens or something??
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Shouldn't Australia have set off warning sirens or something??
Not necessarily. If they gave proper notification through authorities but who knows
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I'm sure this has nothing to do with the nuclear submarine deal the U.S. made with Australia!!!!!!
They also know that there is a yellow belly cowardly clown in the white house too. The whole world has become more unsafe/unstable since corn pop took office and it's going to get a whole lot worse then it is right now.
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Shouldn't Australia have set off warning sirens or something??
I would have thought it would have set off some type of alarm.... Maybe the Aussie / China thing is all just for show. I mean Oz if pulling some pretty crappy stuff on its people with no regards to the outcome kinda like China does......
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Blend that in, with a substantial portion of Australia's farmland being owned by China, and the Australian government having the same problems with a "Deep State" that the US does.
Australia has some real issues.
While their Defense department is buying or building Submarines to defend them from China, a large portion of their Bureaucracy is selling their sovereignty to China, and eventually this will make them a puppet regime.
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rick1 wrote:China sends warplanes into Taiwan on martyr day:
https://www.theweek.in/news/world/2021/10/02/china-dispatches-record-38-warplanes-into-taiwan-amid-martyr-day-ceremony.html
China keeps pushing and one of these days somebody is going to panic and push the wrong button and the the show will start...
Like pastor Joe says better stack food and supplies to the ceiling.. Its ok to have the knowledge on how to make stuff soap/shampoo and so on , but if its to that point there is probably a thousand other things we need to be doing....
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Day after day china keeps sending more planes. It's an obvious show of force and preparation of attack.
It's looking pretty ominous. If I was on Taiwan I would be getting the hell out of there. I know someone who has a family member there as an English teacher and told them it might Be time for an extended vacation back home here.
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They are gradually desensitizing and wearing down Taiwan.
Taiwan doesn't even scramble fighters anymore to shadow china in their air defense identification zone.
One day china will just show up with 150 jets in a first strike and by the time Taiwan realizes "this is it" they'll have about 60 seconds to react just due to the distance and proximity. The majority of their air force and anti aircraft missile batteries will be destroyed in the first 5 minutes of battle and at that point the result will be inevitable.
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I saw on tv, that retired top generals saying that corn pop is already to late to respond to China's threats on Taiwan.
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rick1 wrote:Taiwan is in deep do-do and corn pop is asleep at the wheel.
I saw on tv, that retired top generals saying that corn pop is already to late to respond to China's threats on Taiwan.
Maybe he's not asleep.... Maybe it's by design?
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Drinkthekoolaid wrote:rick1 wrote:Taiwan is in deep do-do and corn pop is asleep at the wheel.
I saw on tv, that retired top generals saying that corn pop is already to late to respond to China's threats on Taiwan.
Maybe he's not asleep.... Maybe it's by design?
Thankx to joe crow, this country is doomed.
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While I think everyone here has Biden figured out, I think y'all underestimate Taiwan. They can scramble quickly enough.Drinkthekoolaid wrote:It's really genius on china's part.
They are gradually desensitizing and wearing down Taiwan.
Taiwan doesn't even scramble fighters anymore to shadow china in their air defense identification zone.
One day china will just show up with 150 jets in a first strike and by the time Taiwan realizes "this is it" they'll have about 60 seconds to react just due to the distance and proximity. The majority of their air force and anti aircraft missile batteries will be destroyed in the first 5 minutes of battle and at that point the result will be inevitable.
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https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/16346462/china-fight-death-taiwans-allies-warning-ww3/
China is also preparing their citizens mentally for war. They are being conditioned.
https://youtu.be/x0CjXkb99Z4
I know we're paying attention, but is anyone else? All the threat indicators are there to see in plain sight
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TRex2 wrote:While I think everyone here has Biden figured out, I think y'all underestimate Taiwan. They can scramble quickly enough.Drinkthekoolaid wrote:It's really genius on china's part.
They are gradually desensitizing and wearing down Taiwan.
Taiwan doesn't even scramble fighters anymore to shadow china in their air defense identification zone.
One day china will just show up with 150 jets in a first strike and by the time Taiwan realizes "this is it" they'll have about 60 seconds to react just due to the distance and proximity. The majority of their air force and anti aircraft missile batteries will be destroyed in the first 5 minutes of battle and at that point the result will be inevitable.
Just my .02cents
I could be wrong but I think Taiwan will be toast. 50% of their airpower will never make it off the ground. Their defenses will be overwhelmed by mass ballistic missile volleys and airstrikes in the first 36-48 hours.
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Drinkthekoolaid wrote:TRex2 wrote:While I think everyone here has Biden figured out, I think y'all underestimate Taiwan. They can scramble quickly enough.Drinkthekoolaid wrote:It's really genius on china's part.
They are gradually desensitizing and wearing down Taiwan.
Taiwan doesn't even scramble fighters anymore to shadow china in their air defense identification zone.
One day china will just show up with 150 jets in a first strike and by the time Taiwan realizes "this is it" they'll have about 60 seconds to react just due to the distance and proximity. The majority of their air force and anti aircraft missile batteries will be destroyed in the first 5 minutes of battle and at that point the result will be inevitable.
Just my .02cents
I could be wrong but I think Taiwan will be toast. 50% of their airpower will never make it off the ground. Their defenses will be overwhelmed by mass ballistic missile volleys and airstrikes in the first 36-48 hours.
Taiwan is tiny compared to China its like a David & Goliath thing.... Makes me wonder if China will keep taking cheap shots at Taiwan until they accidently kill one of the US military advisers then we are in the soup whether we want to or not.....
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Dave58 wrote:Drinkthekoolaid wrote:TRex2 wrote:While I think everyone here has Biden figured out, I think y'all underestimate Taiwan. They can scramble quickly enough.Drinkthekoolaid wrote:It's really genius on china's part.
They are gradually desensitizing and wearing down Taiwan.
Taiwan doesn't even scramble fighters anymore to shadow china in their air defense identification zone.
One day china will just show up with 150 jets in a first strike and by the time Taiwan realizes "this is it" they'll have about 60 seconds to react just due to the distance and proximity. The majority of their air force and anti aircraft missile batteries will be destroyed in the first 5 minutes of battle and at that point the result will be inevitable.
Just my .02cents
I could be wrong but I think Taiwan will be toast. 50% of their airpower will never make it off the ground. Their defenses will be overwhelmed by mass ballistic missile volleys and airstrikes in the first 36-48 hours.
Taiwan is tiny compared to China its like a David & Goliath thing.... Makes me wonder if China will keep taking cheap shots at Taiwan until they accidently kill one of the US military advisers then we are in the soup whether we want to or not.....
Drinks right, Taiwan will be toast.
No Dave, we won't be in the soup because we have a coward named corn pop down there in D.C.
Look no further then what he did in Afghanistan and what he's doing at the southern border. We will be next as far as being attacked via the southern border, 9-11 2.0
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https://news.usni.org/2021/10/07/breaking-attack-submarine-uss-connecticut-suffers-underwater-in-pacific
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Dave58 wrote:I don't know where this goes so I will leave it here....
https://news.usni.org/2021/10/07/breaking-attack-submarine-uss-connecticut-suffers-underwater-in-pacific
Very interesting indeed.
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https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/gordon-chang-china-hypersonic-missile-nuclear/2021/10/18/id/1040903/
China probably won't launch an attack using a nuclear-capable hypersonic missile on the United States, but if it did, that strike would happen without any warning because of the nature of the technology, China expert Gordon Chang warned on Newsmax Monday.
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Either they are lying or they are stupid or both.
Just blows ones mind!!!!!!!!!
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rick1 wrote:The news has been reporting that the U.S. Intelligence agencies were shocked/had no idea about this supersonic missile China just test fired, yet we here have been talking about it for the last 2 years on this forum.
Either they are lying or they are stupid or both.
Just blows ones mind!!!!!!!!!
Hypersonic missiles are no joke. It starts to tilt the odds in favor of a nation actually considering a first strike and trying to knock out their opponents command and control before they can react.
Previously even conventional submarine launched ICBMs or cruise missiles you had probably 5-8 minutes warning which is enough to react and order a counter strike. Now you cut that already shortened time down even more to where a nation might be tempted to think they can get away with a first strike and not face the full counter attack.
A lot more goes into it but it changes the "mutually assured destruction" scenarios of traditional ICBMs, bombers and SLBMs that the previous 50 years tactics, strategies and doctrine are all internationally based upon.
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Here is my thought pattern:rick1 wrote:The news has been reporting that the U.S. Intelligence agencies were shocked/had no idea about this supersonic missile China just test fired, yet we here have been talking about it for the last 2 years on this forum.
Either they are lying or they are stupid or both.
Just blows ones mind!!!!!!!!!
1. They didn't see this coming, because they were too busy spying on their own people, in other words, spying on us.
2. No, wait! If they were spying on us, they would have known, because we would have told them.
3. Dang, they even screwed up spying on us!
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TRex2 wrote:Here is my thought pattern:rick1 wrote:The news has been reporting that the U.S. Intelligence agencies were shocked/had no idea about this supersonic missile China just test fired, yet we here have been talking about it for the last 2 years on this forum.
Either they are lying or they are stupid or both.
Just blows ones mind!!!!!!!!!
1. They didn't see this coming, because they were too busy spying on their own people, in other words, spying on us.
2. No, wait! If they were spying on us, they would have known, because we would have told them.
3. Dang, they even screwed up spying on us!
You're a trip TRex. Corn pop and his circus are sleeping again.
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Drinkthekoolaid wrote:https://finance.yahoo.com/news/did-china-just-test-nuclear-220000499.html
This isn't good
Nope, not good at all.
Somebody wake up corn pop and let him know.
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Maybe something, maybe nothing
I believe we only have 3 seawolf attack subs. 1 was involved and damaged in a mysterious incident in the south china sea. Now the other 2 appear to be up to something.
https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/two-u-s-seawolf-fast-attack-subs-show-up-in-sandiego-receive-top-secret-cargos-and-depart-port-without-crew-disembarking
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Drinkthekoolaid wrote:Interesting.
Maybe something, maybe nothing
I believe we only have 3 seawolf attack subs. 1 was involved and damaged in a mysterious incident in the south china sea. Now the other 2 appear to be up to something.
https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/two-u-s-seawolf-fast-attack-subs-show-up-in-sandiego-receive-top-secret-cargos-and-depart-port-without-crew-disembarking
DTKA: Very interesting read and very scary.
I like his comments that are in bold red print.
If something would happen, our supply chain from that area would be DOA.
If ya got a few X-tra $$$, and you got some X-tra room, I'd be stocking up on a lot of caned goods, just for good luck.
Like he said in his last sentence, "Stay frosty, folks. There appears to be serious storm clouds on the global horizon."
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rick1 wrote:Drinkthekoolaid wrote:Interesting.
Maybe something, maybe nothing
I believe we only have 3 seawolf attack subs. 1 was involved and damaged in a mysterious incident in the south china sea. Now the other 2 appear to be up to something.
https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/two-u-s-seawolf-fast-attack-subs-show-up-in-sandiego-receive-top-secret-cargos-and-depart-port-without-crew-disembarking
DTKA: Very interesting read and very scary.
I like his comments that are in bold red print.
If something would happen, our supply chain from that area would be DOA.
If ya got a few X-tra $$$, and you got some X-tra room, I'd be stocking up on a lot of caned goods, just for good luck.
Like he said in his last sentence, "Stay frosty, folks. There appears to be serious storm clouds on the global horizon."
Almost sounds like another Cuban Missile Crisis type scenario.
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As US military goes “woke,” China believed to be hiding missiles in shipping containers for “Trojan Horse” attacks
https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/as-us-military-goes-woke-china-believed-to-be-hiding-missiles-in-shipping-containers-for-trojan-horse-attacks/
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I wonder what kind of cargo they plan on putting in it?
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/china-hypersonic-plane-new-york-beijing/2022/02/03/id/1055315/?ns_mail_uid=ed113837-94a1-4b8d-8fab-a7f206fd5031&ns_mail_job=DM299311_02032022&s=acs&dkt_nbr=010102s5282l
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Not so fast, there (pun intended):rick1 wrote:China is developing a hypersonic plane, capable of flying from China to New York in 1 hour or 7,000 mile per hour. China is hoping for it to be ready for take off in 2024.
I wonder what kind of cargo they plan on putting in it?
To be useful, it not only has to take off, but it has to land!
The “winged rocket” will be able to fly at a breathtaking 7,000 miles per hour and scientists hope it will be ready for take-off by 2024, The Sun reported.
Testing is reportedly scheduled to begin next year.
Space.com reports that the futuristic plane is being developed by Space Transportation, and the company aims to conduct a full point-to-point flight by the end of the decade.
The only practical "cargo" I can think of, would be diplomats and oligarchs.
I read about this idea in the 70's, and they called it a sub-orbital transport. It would follow the same basic path an ICBM would follow, but the launch would be a lot slower, and burn a lot more fuel. (Longer burn time and more weight)
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He said it was a build up that has been going on for about 20 years.rick1 wrote:The largest military buildup on the artificial islands in the Pacific, by China since WW-2, according to Admiral John C. Aquilino:
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/south-china-sea/2022/03/20/id/1062040/?ns_mail_uid=ed113837-94a1-4b8d-8fab-a7f206fd5031&ns_mail_job=DM313307_03202022&s=acs&dkt_nbr=010102gexues
Not something they have done on a whim.
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TRex2 wrote:He said it was a build up that has been going on for about 20 years.rick1 wrote:The largest military buildup on the artificial islands in the Pacific, by China since WW-2, according to Admiral John C. Aquilino:
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/south-china-sea/2022/03/20/id/1062040/?ns_mail_uid=ed113837-94a1-4b8d-8fab-a7f206fd5031&ns_mail_job=DM313307_03202022&s=acs&dkt_nbr=010102gexues
Not something they have done on a whim.
I don't know why he said it's been going on for about 20 years, China didn't start building them until 2014:
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/what-are-chinas-artificial-islands-and-why-are-there-concerns/ar-AAR8z49
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I say let her go and drive them crazy for awhile:
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/asia/china-warns-us-against-house-speaker-pelosi-visiting-taiwan-2613786
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Russia has both food and fuel. Looking like a candy store to china. china is supposedly helping Russia but beware as china don't do anything for charity.
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https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/may/11/xi-jinping-step-down-rumors-suggest-amid-harsh-chi/
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While his stepping down is generally seen as good, we don't know what the person taking his place will be like.Dave58 wrote:I never thought I would see this..
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/may/11/xi-jinping-step-down-rumors-suggest-amid-harsh-chi/
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https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/first-reading-why-beijing-is-allegedly-opening-police-stations-on-canadian-soil
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If you read up on various issues surrounding free speech, you will find they are losing their liberty, even faster than the Woke-istan portions of the US.Dave58 wrote:Canada is getting closer to being a communist county
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/first-reading-why-beijing-is-allegedly-opening-police-stations-on-canadian-soil
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/despite-what-you-may-think-canadians-dont-actually-have-freedom-of-speech
During the events of Freedom Convoy, it was common to hear protesters say that they were standing up for the rights of free speech or free expression. And Canada does indeed pride itself as a land of free speech … to a point. Unlike the Americans, there are a number of ways that you can go to jail in Canada simply because of something you said. To learn more, watch the Everything Should Be Better video or read the transcript below.
They have put pastors in jail for speaking against Islam.
They have put pastors in jail for speaking against LGBTqxyz.
They have put pastors in jail for holding services during Covid lockdown.
They have put at least one pastor in jail for speaking at a trucker rally ...
Many years ago, they put a gag order on the press, not to talk about a case before the criminal courts, and then told the newspapers they couldn't talk about the gag order. (Lasted until about 3 months after the trial concluded, never officially ended, but they quit enforcing it.)
Then, there is the right to keep and bear arms, which the government has taken from them.
I suspect a lot of their other rights are limited, as well.
All in all, I don't think they see China as all that bad.
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https://thechinaproject.com/2023/06/07/u-s-drug-shortages-highlight-dependence-on-china-gray-supply-chains/
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Yep. And it looks like China Joe's Administration may be covering for them.Drinkthekoolaid wrote:It looks like china is establishing a base on Cuba now.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/06/09/china-cuba-spy-base-trump-indictment-ukraine-counteroffensive-begins/
The Wall Street Journal reports that Cuba has made a secret pact to allow China to establish an electronic eavesdropping facility focused on collecting signals intelligence from the United States on the island. That would mean Chinese intelligence could monitor emails, phone calls, satellite transmissions, and shipping traffic along the southeastern United States from a location roughly 100 miles off Florida’s coastline, potentially enabling Beijing to obtain intelligence from top U.S. military bases...
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The base’s exact location and when it may be built are still unknown, but sources familiar told the Journal that China paid Cuba several billion dollars to construct the planned facility. The U.S. Defense Department and Cuban Vice Foreign Minister Carlos Fernández de Cossio both denied the report’s accuracy, with Fernández de Cossio calling the report “totally mendacious and unfounded information.” Beijing did not directly address the allegations, saying it was “not aware” of the situation and then accusing the United States of “spreading rumors.” Several other media outlets, including CNN, have since corroborated the Journal’s initial reporting. The top Democrat and Republican on the U.S. Senate Intelligence Committee issued a joint statement on Thursday, saying they are “deeply disturbed” by the reports and calling on the Biden administration “to take steps to prevent this serious threat to our national security and sovereignty.”
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You are right.Dave58 wrote:Our government really needs an overhaul. Need to learn to make this stuff here.......
https://thechinaproject.com/2023/06/07/u-s-drug-shortages-highlight-dependence-on-china-gray-supply-chains/
From your link:
Trump tried to apply pressure towards fixing this.The FDA’s emergency import of medicine from China shows just how reliant America has become on Chinese manufacturers of active pharmaceutical ingredients (APIs) for a range of products from cancer therapeutics and antibiotics, to the ingredients in the Adderall used to treat attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD).
The FDA official’s reluctance to share details of the emergency imports highlights how hard it has been for the U.S. to manufacture critical drugs at home at a time when lawmakers in Washington are concerned about China weaponizing its pharmaceutical manufacturing advantage by cutting off supplies.
“We’ve seen young moms frantically calling from pharmacy to pharmacy this past winter, even now, to get basic antibiotics for their child,” Charles Tabouchirani, a pharmacist in New York City told The China Project.
The current shortages are among the worst Tabouchirani has seen since opening Cherry’s Pharmacy on Manhattan’s Upper East Side in 2004.
I think that is one reason the Deep State attacked him.
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