Iranian developments

Dave58 wrote:ReadyMom  I don't think its a crisis prep situation not just yet and I am hoping it doesn't turn into one. Anytime you interrupt the flow of crude oil you will cause the price of things to raise...
Also if you factor the floods in the mid-west its going to be a little more costly for folks...

Just keep doing what your doing and keep your eye on the middle East...
 

rick1 wrote:This is the only article I found from FOX news, from about 30 minutes ago, doesn't say anything about the B-52 flying over Iran:


https://www.foxnews.com/world/us-air-force-sends-message-to-iran

“We will not discuss mission specifics," said Air Force Maj. Holly Brauer, an AFCENT spokesperson. "They have begun flying deterrence missions in the region, including over the Arabian Gulf.

rick1 wrote:U.S. getting plans together to deploy as many as 120,000 troops to middle east if Iran attacks U.S. military forces, its allies or accelerates nuclear enrichment:


https://en.radiofarda.com/a/white-house-reviewing-military-plans-against-iran/29939088.html

Drinkthekoolaid wrote:This is IMO a fair synopsis of what's going on and how these seemingly random events are probably connected.

https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/final-meeting-before-real-trouble-starts-pompeo-headed-to-sochi-for-putin-lavrov-meet

rick1 wrote:

Drinkthekoolaid wrote:This is IMO a fair synopsis of what's going on and how these seemingly random events are probably connected.

https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/final-meeting-before-real-trouble-starts-pompeo-headed-to-sochi-for-putin-lavrov-meet

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DTKA - I wouldn't believe a thing Hal Turner says, he only tells the truth where a lie won't fit. He hates everybody, I put him in the same class as the KKK. But that's just my opinion.

dmwalsh568 wrote:Looks like the attacks were on booster stations on some Saudi owned pipelines.

https://in.reuters.com/article/uk-global-oil/oil-prices-jump-on-drone-attack-on-saudi-aramco-facilities-idINKCN1SK04R?il=0

First the tankers being attacked, now the pipelines are under attack...won't take a lot more to move into full fledged shooting war.

rick1 wrote:DTKA and dmwalsh568 I agree, we're in a mess bigger than the NK one. We may just have to shoot ourselves out of this one.

TRex2 wrote:

Drinkthekoolaid wrote:

rick1 wrote:DTKA and dmwalsh568 I agree, we're in a mess bigger than the NK one. We may just have to shoot ourselves out of this one.

IMO, the 3 biggest differences comparing the NK crisis a few years ago to this Iran crisis.  War with Iran 10 years from now may very well be apocalyptic.

NK already verifibly had nukes. Iran most likely does not yet. Stopping Iran from becoming a nuclear state cannot be understated.

This current crisis has already had kinetic attacks of sabotage

Iran is oil and resource wealthy. A vast amount of resources flow through the Persian gulf and Iran makes a fortune from it.  Other countries (like china) depend on it.

Concur with this, also.
Saw picture of one ship, and it looked like it hit a mine.
(Not a close look, though.)

dmwalsh568 wrote:And we keep inching closer to active combat:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/iran-threat-us-orders-all-non-essential-embassy-staff-to-leave-iraq

Scariest bit for me is this line:
The notice ordered staff at the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad and the U.S. Consulate in Erbil to go leave the country “as soon as possible” using commercial transportation.

Sounds like they are definitely preparing for war. Sigh.

Iran said on Friday it could “easily” hit U.S. warships in the Gulf, the latest in days of saber rattling between Washington and Tehran, while its top diplomat worked to counter U.S. sanctions and salvage a nuclear deal denounced by President Donald Trump.

“Even our short-range missiles can easily reach (U.S.) warships in the Persian Gulf,” Mohammad Saleh Jokar, the deputy for parliamentary affairs of the elite Revolutionary Guards (IRGC), was quoted by Fars news agency as saying.

I consider the attack on the Saudi tankers this week the first shot in a third Gulf war, because the US, especially under Donald Trump's leadership, cannot allow itself to be humiliated this way by Tehran. After all, two and half years ago, even before entering the White House, Trump talked about "making America great again." The attack on the Saudi tankers has furnished him with the reason for waging war against Iran, and I will not be surprised if before long, we are witness to US attacks on Iranian targets such as the port the attackers sailed from and Iranian nuclear power plants.

Drinkthekoolaid wrote:https://apnews.com/dd56652fae6247c0944edd4d0c5516c3

Baharain ordering it's citizens to immediately leavr uran and iraq

Former CIA Director David Petraeus warned Iran that it is going to have to be “very careful” ...

He added: “They're going to have to be very careful not to overplay their hand and result in some kind of response that is quite punitive.”

“I'm not quite so sure that with this White House, that there might not be a fairly substantial response to something that the Iranians might think is just a proxy activity that stays below what they think the threshold is, after which we would respond,” Petraeus said.

A rocket crashed Sunday night in the Iraqi capital's heavily fortified Green Zone, landing less than a mile from the sprawling U.S. Embassy, an Iraqi military spokesman said.

The UNited States Embassy in Baghdad, Iraq is under attack at this hour, being hit by numerous barrages of heavy Mortar fire.

This is a developing story as of 1:51 PM eastern US time.

Trump tweeted hours after a rocket landed less than a mile from the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad's heavily fortified Green Zone,

British Special Forces have flown to the Middle East in the framework of a top secret mission to rebuff possible Iranian attacks on merchant ships, according to The Sun.

Members of the elite Special Boat Service are reported to have joined UK registered oil tankers heading towards the Persian Gulf, subsequently to be tasked with monitoring Iranian military activity in the vicinity of Qesham Island, home to the country's naval gunboats, the paper reports.

rick1 wrote:Fox news is reporting that Iran is quadruples its uranium enrichment (production):


https://www.foxnews.com/world/iran-uranium-production

The US intercepted conversations between Iran and Hezbollah in which Iran ordered Hezbollah to conduct attacks on Americans, according to KAN news.

•    Iran can fire missiles at US warships, as well as deploy sea mines and submarine drones in the Persian Gulf
     
• Tehran can also call on thousands of battle-hardened jihadists in Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Lebanon and Afghanistan
     
• Their weapons at home and those with which they have armed the jihadists can devastate US targets
     
• US warships have sailed to the Gulf amid mounting tensions with Tehran over Washington's trade sanctions

Whatever the administration actually wants, there is one thing that the war avoiders and the warmongers should be able to agree on: the need to prevent an accidental or unintended conflict between the United States and Iran. But the administration’s actions are increasing rather than lowering the risks that the two countries will stumble into a conflict as a result of a miscalculation, misunderstanding, or miscommunication.

Drinkthekoolaid wrote:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7106845/Iran-six-months-away-having-NUCLEAR-WEAPONS-former-IAEA-deputy-warns.html

Another update. Iran getting closer to becoming a nuclear power.

rick1 wrote:

Drinkthekoolaid wrote:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7106845/Iran-six-months-away-having-NUCLEAR-WEAPONS-former-IAEA-deputy-warns.html

Another update. Iran getting closer to becoming a nuclear power.

Proverb says "I foresee a glass parking lot being developed."

TRex2 wrote:

Drinkthekoolaid wrote:Another update. Iran getting closer to becoming a nuclear power.

True, but not for several more months.
At least.

Even if we do absolutely nothing, no way Israel just sits back and lets it happen. That maywill spark a regional conflict drawing other parties in.

...ominous situation.

Exactly.
[I had to edit the quoted part a bit, in blue]

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