China & Russia Tag Teaming the USA

It was on FOX news last week. Not only that, they had a retired naval officer on and he said that China's navy is now larger then the U.S.. With both China and Russia going against the U.S., are chances of stopping them is getting smaller.

Now, Russia and China want Iran in the mix and China backs North Korea with Russia not far behind China's North Korean support.

If all four get into the mix at one time, Hawaii is just a stepping stone.

If I was China and Russia, I would take Taiwan first, then Hong Kong, then Guam, then Hawaii. This would give them time to see how joe crow would react on each step, but only if he's awake.

After 20 years of wars in the middle east, our military is tired, not only tired from fighting that war, their tired of the woke theories that are being taught to them by the clown "joe crow" and his generals/admirals.

I just can't see it getting any better anytime soon.

Sounds like it was a warning to me. I'm an old man or at least getting there and I worry about my grand kids because they don't have a clue what type of shit storm is coming...

Family's are scattered and the kids are not being taught the right things in school anymore.....

Dave58 wrote:Sounds like it was a warning to me.  I'm an old man or at least getting there and I worry about my grand kids because they don't have a clue what type of shit storm is coming...

Family's are scattered and the kids are not being taught the right things in school anymore.....

We're loosing this country, don't know if it will be to China, Russia, to the woke clowns running this country or all three.

Yep, I am an old man. I remember as a kid being taught God and country, now they teach cell phone/text, all while you're sitting beside the kid you texting.

The young have no clue what it is to have freedom 'cause they have never had to fight for it, but the demonrats are taking that away one amendment of the constitution at a time.

They now push socialism, everything free, don't have to work for it and a one party rule. Censor your speech, want to take your guns away, ya know, do as I say, not as I do.

I won't live long enough to see these snowflakes fight to get their freedom back like they're doing in Cuba now, but my grandkids will.

We're living in a sad, sad country right now and are being led right down the path of destruction by the woke demonrat clowns in D.C..

As I stated above, read it a weep:

https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/561796-chinas-military-prepares-for-war-while-americas-military-goes-woke

https://thehill.com/opinion/criminal-justice/509639-china-and-russia-have-a-plan-to-defeat-america-and-americas-far-left

Its just a matter of time.....

https://www.the-sun.com/news/3308916/china-threatens-to-nuke-japan/

Dave58 wrote:Its just a matter of time.....

https://www.the-sun.com/news/3308916/china-threatens-to-nuke-japan/

May be just the beginning, but China loves to fear monger.

China will take Hong Kong first before Japan, just to see if joe crow is awake, if asleep, they'll go for Taiwan, etc..

rick1 wrote:

Dave58 wrote:Its just a matter of time.....

https://www.the-sun.com/news/3308916/china-threatens-to-nuke-japan/

May be just the beginning, but China loves to fear monger.

China will take Hong Kong first before Japan, just to see if joe crow is awake, if asleep, they'll go for Taiwan, etc..

Umm, China already has Hong Kong and they are rolling up any opposition using their new security law that went into effect in June of 2020:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-52765838

And since China considers Taiwan to be theirs already, that's my bet for their next target for intervention.

A bit of history of the tensions between the two countries:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-34729538

Chinese military forces landing on Taiwan would be my trigger point for last minute preps, although at this point there isn't much left to do since I've been in a heightened state of prep since just before COVID became an issue here in the USA. Might get me to cover the basement windows with bricks and dirt piles outside in case WW3 goes nuclear, but I guess it'll be a decision  for once Taiwan falls....

I have been think about some 3/4 plywood to cover windows just in case of roving idiot hoards...

Dave58 wrote:I have been think about some 3/4 plywood to cover windows just in case of roving idiot hoards...

Makes good hurricane shutters too, so you can grab that stuff at the local home supply shop and tell them you want to get ready for the next storms. With them pre-cut and ready to put up you can save a lot of time whenever you reach your trigger point.

dmwalsh568 wrote:

rick1 wrote:

Dave58 wrote:Its just a matter of time.....

https://www.the-sun.com/news/3308916/china-threatens-to-nuke-japan/

May be just the beginning, but China loves to fear monger.

China will take Hong Kong first before Japan, just to see if joe crow is awake, if asleep, they'll go for Taiwan, etc..

Umm, China already has Hong Kong and they are rolling up any opposition using their new security law that went into effect in June of 2020:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-52765838

And since China considers Taiwan to be theirs already, that's my bet for their next target for intervention.

A bit of history of the tensions between the two countries:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-34729538

Chinese military forces landing on Taiwan would be my trigger point for last minute preps, although at this point there isn't much left to do since I've been in a heightened state of prep since just before COVID became an issue here in the USA. Might get me to cover the basement windows with bricks and dirt piles outside in case WW3 goes nuclear, but I guess it'll be a decision  for once Taiwan falls....

Hong Kong wants to stay away from China, yes China now owns Hong Kong, but Hong Kong will not give in to China until China rolls in the tanks and about a hundred thousand troops.

Since the chinese civil war, Taiwan has considered themselves a separate country, China cannot be hole until Taiwan declares the civil war over, and they will not, nor will most of the world let China take them over, maybe.

dmwalsh568 wrote:

Dave58 wrote:I have been think about some 3/4 plywood to cover windows just in case of roving idiot hoards...

Makes good hurricane shutters too, so you can grab that stuff at the local home supply shop and tell them you want to get ready for the next storms. With them pre-cut and ready to put up you can save a lot of time whenever you reach your trigger point.

Going to cost a small fortune to purchase now!

Dave58 wrote:https://www.the-sun.com/news/3336978/china-says-us-has-no-chance-stopping-taiwan-invasion/

joe crow may have to wake up from one of his naps  to stumble through a decision making comment.

rick1 wrote:

Dave58 wrote:https://www.the-sun.com/news/3336978/china-says-us-has-no-chance-stopping-taiwan-invasion/

joe crow may have to wake up from one of his naps  to stumble through a decision making comment.

I get it, you hate Joe Biden.

But did you read the article you posted over in China vs the US?

Here's the link again:   https://nationalinterest.org/blog/reboot/biden-sending-more-warships-south-china-sea-189781

Personally I consider Biden sending more warships to the area to be doing something better than just talking about it. What's that old saying? Actions speak louder than words....

dmwalsh568 wrote:

rick1 wrote:

Dave58 wrote:https://www.the-sun.com/news/3336978/china-says-us-has-no-chance-stopping-taiwan-invasion/

joe crow may have to wake up from one of his naps  to stumble through a decision making comment.

I get it, you hate Joe Biden.

But did you read the article you posted over in China vs the US?

Here's the link again:   https://nationalinterest.org/blog/reboot/biden-sending-more-warships-south-china-sea-189781

Personally I consider Biden sending more warships to the area to be doing something better than just talking about it. What's that old saying? Actions speak louder than words....

Oh no, I don't hate Biden, nor do I hate democrats,  I hate what they stand for, racism, socialism, indoctrination, unsecure southern border, etc., you can go on forever.

The warships should have been sent over after China embarrassed the U.S. at the summit back on March 18th and 19th.

The one thing Biden has done right is backing Trumps decision on China and the South China Sea and the backing of Taiwan, at least so far.

China and Russia are tag teaming corn pop,  as he falls asleep at the wheel. This article indicates the U.S. should be on red alert or at least a red flag thrown at corn pop, but he's too busy pushing his new green deal and spending money the U.S. doesn't have:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/restoring-america/courage-strength-optimism/china-and-russia-are-making-reasons-for-space-force-obvious

Just another stepping stone closer to the U.S..

From the artificial island in the Pacific to South Africa in the Atlantic, next step (Cuba).

The U.S. has a plate full and it's starting to overflow and the clowns  in D.C. are asleep  at the wheel.

Good article.

Corn pop and his administration just have to be having nightmares.

From Russia to China to Iran. From record high murders/crimes in demonrat led cities to open borders. And lets not forget the covid pandemic and the far left radical crackpots that are voting for trillions of more money, just to inflate inflation.

This country can't handle too much more, we're doomed.

rick1 wrote:Good article.
Corn pop and his administration just have to be having nightmares.
...
This country can't handle too much more, we're doomed.

Not really. China pwns Biden's family, so Corn pop will just let them have what they want.

We are doomed, though, and have been since the last half of 2012. That is when we really died, as a nation. (We did have one return to life, under Trump...) Since then, our fate has been sealed.

It is instructive to look at the demise of Judah, from Hezekiah (Reagan) through Josiah (Trump) to the destruction of Jerusalem. We are on a parallel course, as Samuel Clemons said: "history doesn't repeat, but it often rhymes."

https://news.trust.org/item/20211213124545-vaaq1

Just like little kids on a playground

Dave58 wrote:https://news.trust.org/item/20211213124545-vaaq1

Just like little kids on a playground

Saber rattlin' (I hope). If Russia would do this, they would be turned into a glass parking lot, BUT, we have a cowardly clown in the white house.

Now China would be a different story.

Dave58 wrote:https://news.trust.org/item/20211213124545-vaaq1

Just like little kids on a playground

I kind of remember the playground differently, other than in the movies

Youtube Wargames snippet

Russia may up the ante if the west keeps pushing NATO:

https://www.newsmax.com/world/globaltalk/nato-deputy-foreign-minister-sergei-ryabkov-vladimir-putin/2021/12/18/id/1049174/?ns_mail_uid=ed113837-94a1-4b8d-8fab-a7f206fd5031&ns_mail_job=DM285029_12192021&s=acs&dkt_nbr=010504k903be

Russia is pulling out some of its troops from Ukraine, not many, 10,000 of them:

https://thehill.com/policy/international/587295-thousands-of-russian-troops-withdrawing-from-ukraine-border-report

rick1 wrote:Russia is pulling out some of its troops from Ukraine, not many, 10,000 of them:

https://thehill.com/policy/international/587295-thousands-of-russian-troops-withdrawing-from-ukraine-border-report

Yeah, that is less than 10%.
I am not impressed, but I am in a wait and see mode.

They need to reinforce by about 40% before launching any major offensive.
Of course, they have enough right now, to carry on with harassment operations.

TRex2 wrote:

rick1 wrote:Russia is pulling out some of its troops from Ukraine, not many, 10,000 of them:

https://thehill.com/policy/international/587295-thousands-of-russian-troops-withdrawing-from-ukraine-border-report

Yeah, that is less than 10%.
I am not impressed, but I am in a wait and see mode.

They need to reinforce by about 40% before launching any major offensive.
Of course, they have enough right now, to carry on with harassment operations.

Actually No. Russia isn't pulling any of them out.
The Hill either misinterpreted the Interfax(?) report, or got their info from someone who misinterpreted the report.

https://apnews.com/article/europe-russia-ukraine-vladimir-putin-moscow-473d4b2eebff4dc59d8e7dff9e8653ba

Does anybody remember Duck and Cover from school ???

Dave58 wrote:https://apnews.com/article/europe-russia-ukraine-vladimir-putin-moscow-473d4b2eebff4dc59d8e7dff9e8653ba

Does anybody remember Duck and Cover from school ???

Duck and Cover,(hide under your desk) just as soon as you heard the fire whistles blow, brings back memories.

The civil defense was big back then too, just like WW2. Buildings were marked for fallout shelters, basements had X-tra home can goods, etc..

Yep, brings back memories

rick1 wrote:

Dave58 wrote:https://apnews.com/article/europe-russia-ukraine-vladimir-putin-moscow-473d4b2eebff4dc59d8e7dff9e8653ba
Does anybody remember Duck and Cover from school ???

Duck and Cover,(hide under your desk) just as soon as you heard the fire whistles blow, brings back memories.
The civil defense was big back then too, just like WW2. Buildings were marked for fallout shelters, basements had X-tra home can goods, etc..
Yep, brings back memories

I remember seeing all of those things, and talking about all of those things, but we were too busy doing tornado drills to worry about nukes
(Seriously, there isn't that much difference.)

Dave58 wrote:http://news.trust.org/item/20220114134537-4cxeg

Ukraine is training civilians to fight along side its military. Of course Russia is behind the hack attacks.

Just a matter of time before Russia walks across the Ukraine border, tic toc.

It's about to go down.

The US needs to stay out of it. Ukraine is corrupt. Russia isn't any boyscout either. But it's not our fight. Let Europe deal with their own mess.

Keep the US out of it.

My take... Russia is going to deploy missiles in Venezuela and Cuba

Drinkthekoolaid wrote:It's about to go down.

The US needs to stay out of it. Ukraine is corrupt. Russia isn't any boyscout either. But it's not our fight. Let Europe deal with their own mess.

Keep the US out of it.

My take... Russia is going to deploy missiles in Venezuela and Cuba  

Yep, on the news, they said Russia has troops in Ukraine and when a group of other Russian troops go over the border, they will be killed by the Russian troops that already there, they call it FALSE FLAG. This will give Russia reason to take over Ukraine.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/u-s-intel-suggests-russia-preparing-false-flag-operation-pretext-n1287514

As far as Russia deploying missiles near the U.S., I agree, another Cuban missile crises. Old corn pop will have to get a bigger plate, as the one he has now is overflowing.

Drinkthekoolaid wrote:It's about to go down.

The US needs to stay out of it. Ukraine is corrupt. Russia isn't any boyscout either. But it's not our fight. Let Europe deal with their own mess.
Keep the US out of it.

At what point do we intervene? (rhetorical, see below)
They took Donbas and Crimea, do we let them march all the way to Moldova? (rhetorical, see below)

By this time next year, there will be at least four nails in Germany's coffin.
Loss of coal imports from Ukraine (which they didn't see the value of)
There wokeness on environmental issues (the reason they didn't see the value of coal)
Mass influx of "migrants" from Syria and Africa .
The Nordstream Pipelines.

Once Russia owns southern and eastern Ukraine and is supplying them with oil through the Nordstream pipelines, Germany will be a puppet of Russia, with the twin cancers of an Islamic insurgency and environmental wokeness to keep them from doing anything about it.

They will be pwned.

So the answer is (since we have a woke administration) never.

Germany is forfeit.

My take... Russia is going to deploy missiles in Venezuela and Cuba

The weakness we have shown, and will show when they take Germany, tells me you are right. Well, in Venezuela, anyway. I think they will maintain Cuba as a "neutral" party, for their intel agencies to work out of. By calling them neutral, they will be assured of immunity from any counter action we take (due to our wokeness).
(They already have the plans, and much of the infrastructure in place, for it.)

TRex2 wrote:

Drinkthekoolaid wrote:It's about to go down.

The US needs to stay out of it. Ukraine is corrupt. Russia isn't any boyscout either. But it's not our fight. Let Europe deal with their own mess.
Keep the US out of it.

At what point do we intervene? (rhetorical, see below)
They took Donbas and Crimea, do we let them march all the way to Moldova? (rhetorical, see below)

By this time next year, there will be at least four nails in Germany's coffin.
Loss of coal imports from Ukraine (which they didn't see the value of)
There wokeness on environmental issues (the reason they didn't see the value of coal)
Mass influx of "migrants" from Syria and Africa .
The Nordstream Pipelines.

Once Russia owns southern and eastern Ukraine and is supplying them with oil through the Nordstream pipelines, Germany will be a puppet of Russia, with the twin cancers of an Islamic insurgency and environmental wokeness to keep them from doing anything about it.

They will be pwned.

So the answer is (since we have a woke administration) never.

Germany is forfeit.

My take... Russia is going to deploy missiles in Venezuela and Cuba

The weakness we have shown, and will show when they take Germany, tells me you are right. Well, in Venezuela, anyway. I think they will maintain Cuba as a "neutral" party, for their intel agencies to work out of. By calling them neutral, they will be assured of immunity from any counter action we take (due to our wokeness).
(They already have the plans, and much of the infrastructure in place, for it.)

Germany has made their own bed let them lay in it. They have made an patently suicidal strategy to depend their country's energy in Russia. They knew the potential ramifications of their decisions but went ahead anyway because they were woke before it was cool (intended sarcasm). They put wokeness above their practical national interests and survival. Their economy and citizens heating is now dependent upon a hostile nation whom Germany has no leverage over.



Woops....

I'm really convinced politicians are completely inept human beings. They would be colossal failures of they were in the private sector and were held accountable for their idiotic decisions.

Maybe this is short sighted but I'm not down with helping Germany unless the ruskies send t-90s unprovoked into Berlin. Germany hasn't exactly been out best friend. They are using us as a matter of convenience in for our resources to defend them as protection and as a market to dump their goods on our population (they do make quality things).

Drinkthekoolaid wrote:Germany has made their own bed let them lay in it. They have made an patently suicidal strategy to depend their country's energy in Russia. They knew the potential ramifications of their decisions but went ahead anyway because they were woke before it was cool (intended sarcasm).  They put wokeness above their practical national interests and survival. Their economy and citizens heating is now dependent upon a hostile nation whom Germany has no leverage over.  

You are completely right. Some of the German oligarchy may have expected the US and Britain to intervene (based on the Budapest Memorandum) when Russia took the Dunbas region, and therefore preserve a source of coal for them. A robust knowledge of international affairs should have warned them that this was a mistake.

Budapest Memorandum:
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2014/03/does_the_1994_budapest_memorandum_obligate_the_us_to_intervene_in_ukraine.html

But then, to allow the woke environmentalists to steer them away from (dirty) coal and (dangerous) nuclear energy was their next stupid mistake. The "Jet Set" (people with enough money to buy their own jet airplane) aristocracy thought the woke environmentalists would only damage the commoners. They thought wrong.

Germany's energy sector:
https://www.world-nuclear.org/information-library/country-profiles/countries-g-n/germany.aspx

Woops....

I'm really convinced politicians are completely inept human beings. They would be colossal failures of they were in the private sector and were held accountable for their idiotic decisions.

Maybe this is short sighted but I'm not down with helping Germany unless the ruskies send t-90s unprovoked into Berlin. Germany hasn't exactly been out best friend. They are using us as a matter of convenience in for our resources to defend them as protection and as a market to dump their goods on our population (they do make quality things).

Some are inept as politicians, and some are crooked. As you point out, they are virtually all inept, as human beings. (I can count the good ones on my fingers and toes.)

The only short sighted part of this is our dependence on those "goods" they "dump" on our population. The shortsightedness, here, is our own. We have allowed our own manufacturing sector to be disassembled.

The problem with Europe is they've depended upon on our resources and man power to provide for their defense for a generation or 2 now that as countries they've become weak and effeminate. They are like the Romans depending on the vandals.

They have saved their money from not having to invest it in their defense budgets but rather turn around and allocate it towards socialist woke programs.  They developed their entire economy and lifestyle using this model and this is what entire generation or 2 of Germans grew up learning and expecting. They felt so superior and enlightened that their society was so great and so evolved.

The irony is for a small window of time they raise their standard of living for many of their citizens but it's short sighted. Sure they can provide more services for their Citizens but now their citizens have an entire generation that is expecting to be taken care of from birth to death with no personal responsibility. They are becoming detached entitled effeminate society which is literally begging to be displaced by a more masculine dominant one. Enter the Muslims. They are conquering and out competing the EU and in this case Germany from within.  They are completing their invasion by foot and by womb. Nature hates a vacuum and weakness. It doesn't matter how cultured or sophisticated or enlightened you are. It is what it is.

The idiocy is Germany invited them in, partly to do jobs they deemed undesirable for their advanced society, and partly because they've been instilled with a woke sense of collective guilt. So they invited the Muslims in initially and once they realized it was going to be a problem tried to slow it down but it's too late now. It's purely a demographic inevitability.

Germany is so screwed.

You are right, DTKA, I agree.

This looked interesting

https://apnews.com/article/moscow-russia-europe-belarus-ukraine-555703583c8f9d54bd42e60aca895590

Dave58 wrote:This looked interesting

https://apnews.com/article/moscow-russia-europe-belarus-ukraine-555703583c8f9d54bd42e60aca895590

The red line will be crossed any day now.

https://www.newsmax.com/globaltalk/ukraine/2022/01/18/id/1052941/?ns_mail_uid=ed113837-94a1-4b8d-8fab-a7f206fd5031&ns_mail_job=DM294637_01192022&s=acs&dkt_nbr=010104a0m1wu

ReadyMom wrote:State Duma deputy proposed to propose a nuclear strike on the United States Russian news EN
https://europe-cities.com/2022/01/16/state-duma-deputy-proposed-to-propose-a-nuclear-strike-on-the-united-states-russian-news-en/

This would be the "end of days".

Things are really getting ominous

Diplomats are being expelled
Military units being deployed
Increasing rhetoric

Not good indicators at all. The warning signs are all alerting.


https://youtu.be/zqMAVH2WUF0

Dave58 wrote:This looked interesting

https://apnews.com/article/moscow-russia-europe-belarus-ukraine-555703583c8f9d54bd42e60aca895590

From that link:

Ukraine’s Defense Ministry said Tuesday it has received a shipment of anti-tank weapons from the U.K., noting that they will help “strengthen our defense capability.”

Russia already has started moving troops for the war games in Belarus. Fomin said it would take through Feb. 9 to fully deploy weapons and personnel for the Allied Resolve 2022 drills, which are expected to take place Feb. 10-20.

Fomin didn’t say how many troops will be involved, but mentioned that Russia will deploy a dozen Su-35 fighter jets and several air defense units to Belarus. The deployment would bolster an estimated 100,000 Russian troops with tanks and other heavy weapons who are already amassed near Ukraine.

Good to see Ukraine sending good defensive (anti-armor) weapons.

A little worrisome to see Russia moving (its best) fighter jets and anti-aircraft units into Belarus. The combination shows they intend to use their position in Belarus to give air cover to ground units punching into Ukraine, probably further north than the Donbas region or Mariupol.

I wonder if anyone will have the nerve to destroy the industrial and machine complex ( I can't recall if this is called Southern or Western Machine Works), which, IIRC is located in Lugansk. If it is heavily damaged, it would put a hurt on Russia since that is their primary source for shaft turbine engines for their biggest military helicopters.

rick1 wrote:

ReadyMom wrote:State Duma deputy proposed to propose a nuclear strike on the United States Russian news EN
https://europe-cities.com/2022/01/16/state-duma-deputy-proposed-to-propose-a-nuclear-strike-on-the-united-states-russian-news-en/

This would be the "end of days".

Yeah, the article says they think they could drop a nuclear armed ICBM into our Nevada nuclear testing area, after giving us a couple days warning, and not start WW-5. (3 was the cold war, and 4 was Islamist vs the West.)

They might want to rethink that, before the awaken a sleeping giant, and fill him with great resolve.

President corn pop gives Russia the green light for a "minor incursion". What a  

White House has to walk back corn pop's drastic mistake, but I bet Putin takes corn pop up on his mistake:

https://www.newsmax.com/politics/vladimir-putin-invasion-aggression-nato/2022/01/19/id/1053153/?ns_mail_uid=ed113837-94a1-4b8d-8fab-a7f206fd5031&ns_mail_job=DM294946_01202022&s=acs&dkt_nbr=010504gv2b2f

China flying over Taiwan again. What's the chances of a Russia/China acting at the same time, just to confuse old corn pop:

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/taiwan-chinese-air-force-incursions/2022/01/23/id/1053596/?ns_mail_uid=ed113837-94a1-4b8d-8fab-a7f206fd5031&ns_mail_job=DM295822_01232022&s=acs&dkt_nbr=010104hwq0wt