Re: Russian Concerns

by TRex2 Fri Apr 16, 2021 11:35 am

The Russians can sense that we are weak. They know that, starved for funding, and neglected, it will only be a short time before our defenses, cyber and otherwise, will degrade. They have had a couple weak Administrations, in the past, to learn this from. They probably even have a schedule planned, as to when the optimum time to attack will be.

by **ReadyMom** Mon Apr 19, 2021 4:27 pm

Russian air force kills up to 200 militants in Syria
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/russian-air-force-kills-up-200-militants-syria-ifx-2021-04-19/

by TRex2 Mon Apr 19, 2021 5:35 pm

ReadyMom wrote:Russian air force kills up to 200 militants in Syria
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/russian-air-force-kills-up-200-militants-syria-ifx-2021-04-19/

I really hate it, when they say "up to" some number. That means they know it is less, and are using that number to hype the news. It is a weasel tactic, like click bait.

I have always wondered about the little horn that sprang up, uprooting three horns, in the prophesies. Would that be Russia, over running thee other regions? Or Iran, conquering three neighbors? I think we are so near those days, we can feel it.

But, I think, first, Russia will enter Ukraine. I think they want better access to the Black Sea, for both economic (pipelines) and military reasons. They want clear overland route to Crimea, which they took through intimidation, during the Obama years.

https://www.nationsonline.org/oneworld/map/ukraine-administrative-map.htm

by rick1 Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:43 pm

Russian President Putin wars west to not cross the red line or they will be met with a harsh response:

https://thehill.com/policy/international/russia/549469-putin-warns-west-not-to-cross-red-line-in-annual-address

by Dave58 Wed Apr 21, 2021 5:17 pm

rick1 wrote:Russian President Putin wars west to not cross the red line or they will be met with a harsh response:

https://thehill.com/policy/international/russia/549469-putin-warns-west-not-to-cross-red-line-in-annual-address

Putin doesn't say where or what the red line is......

by TRex2 Wed Apr 21, 2021 5:28 pm

Dave58 wrote:
rick1 wrote:Russian President Putin wars west to not cross the red line or they will be met with a harsh response:

https://thehill.com/policy/international/russia/549469-putin-warns-west-not-to-cross-red-line-in-annual-address

Putin doesn't say where or what the red line is......

That is deliberate.

by Dave58 Wed Apr 21, 2021 5:32 pm

TRex2 wrote:
Dave58 wrote:
rick1 wrote:Russian President Putin wars west to not cross the red line or they will be met with a harsh response:

https://thehill.com/policy/international/russia/549469-putin-warns-west-not-to-cross-red-line-in-annual-address

Putin doesn't say where or what the red line is......
That is deliberate.

I would have to agree

by rick1 Wed Apr 21, 2021 6:18 pm

Dave58 wrote:
TRex2 wrote:
Dave58 wrote:
rick1 wrote:Russian President Putin wars west to not cross the red line or they will be met with a harsh response:

https://thehill.com/policy/international/russia/549469-putin-warns-west-not-to-cross-red-line-in-annual-address

Putin doesn't say where or what the red line is......
That is deliberate.

I would have to agree

Remember last week when the two war ships went to the black sea, well, fox reported that Putin told Sleepy Joe to get them gone or he would. Guess what happened, the ships turned around.

We'll know for sure if and when that red line is crossed.

by rick1 Wed Apr 21, 2021 6:54 pm

rick1 wrote:
Dave58 wrote:
TRex2 wrote:
Dave58 wrote:
rick1 wrote:Russian President Putin wars west to not cross the red line or they will be met with a harsh response:

https://thehill.com/policy/international/russia/549469-putin-warns-west-not-to-cross-red-line-in-annual-address

Putin doesn't say where or what the red line is......
That is deliberate.

I would have to agree

Remember last week when the two war ships went to the black sea, well, fox reported that Putin told Sleepy Joe to get them gone or he would. Guess what happened, the ships turned around.

We'll know for sure if and when that red line is crossed.

Russia sends 20 warships to black sea, no wonder the 2 of our warships aren't there now:

https://nypost.com/2021/04/20/russia-sends-warships-in-black-sea-amid-us-ukraine-tensions/

by rick1 Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:55 pm

Russian troops to pull out of Crimea, I don't believe it but here it is:

https://www.politico.eu/article/russia-troops-leave-ukraine-border/

by Dave58 Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:30 pm

rick1 wrote:Russian troops to pull out of Crimea, I don't believe it but here it is:

https://www.politico.eu/article/russia-troops-leave-ukraine-border/

Do you think Israel and Syria got their attention ????

by TRex2 Thu Apr 22, 2021 6:19 pm

Hmmm, watch for "Melitopol" in the news.

Russia will need an overland route for supplies, to augment sealift routes. They have to go through Melitopol, to get there.

Also look for discussions between Russia and Turkey.

by rick1 Wed May 19, 2021 8:14 am

After pushing a new green deal, shutting down the keystone pipe line and ending drilling on federal property, the head clown in the white house gives Russia the green light on the pipe line that runs from Russia to Germany.

What a demonrat poop head :BadDog:

:

https://thefederalist.com/2021/05/18/biden-reportedly-greenlights-russian-pipeline-after-shutting-down-u-s-keystone-pipeline/

by TRex2 Wed May 19, 2021 3:42 pm

Biden may well have handed Germany's future over to Russia, and made them a de facto Russian satellite.

https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/554163-biden-waiving-sanctions-for-nord-stream-2-pipeline-firm-report
https://thehill.com/policy/international/europe/554299-germany-us-reversal-on-nord-stream-2-sanctions-constructive

The Nord Stream 2 pipeline would bring natural gas from Russia into Germany. The U.S. has long opposed this project, the AP notes, arguing that it threatens European energy security and hurts allies like Poland and Ukraine by bypassing them.

During his confirmation hearing earlier this year, Secretary of State Antony Blinken said, “I am determined to do whatever we can to prevent [the pipeline’s] completion.”

When he was in D.C. in April, the interparliamentary delegation chair for the European Union, Radosław Sikorski, called on the U.S. to sanction the Nord Stream 2.

“I made the point that if the U.S. imposes sanctions they should be effective,” Sikorski told The Hill at the time.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/a-great-gift-to-putin-biden-to-waive-sanctions-on-company-building-russias-nord-stream-2-pipeline

National security expert Tom Rogan wrote a piece saying that Biden’s move “damages NATO,” highlighting the following four impacts of the move:

Nord Stream 2 will give Putin the means of Europe’s long-term energy dependence on Russia.
Nord Stream 2 will deny Ukraine access to billions of dollars in annual energy transit funds by displacing energy supplies from Ukrainian pipelines.
Biden’s decision fits with other recent actions, which reflect obvious weakness toward Putin.
Germany has done nothing to deserve this gift.

by **ReadyMom** Thu Jun 24, 2021 10:10 am

Russia will directly bomb HMS Defender if it sails too close to Crimea again, minister warns
https://www.thewashingtontime.com/russia-will-directly-bomb-hms-defender-if-it-sails-too-close-to-crimea-again-minister-warns/

A top Russian official has warned British warships could be bombed the next time they sail too close to Crimea after warning shots were fired at HMS Defender on Wednesday.

The British Type 45 destroyer sailed within the 12-mile limit of Crimea near Cape Fiolent in the Black Sea which Russia claims as its own territory but the West sees as international waters.

by rick1 Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:48 am

ReadyMom wrote:Russia will directly bomb HMS Defender if it sails too close to Crimea again, minister warns
https://www.thewashingtontime.com/russia-will-directly-bomb-hms-defender-if-it-sails-too-close-to-crimea-again-minister-warns/

A top Russian official has warned British warships could be bombed the next time they sail too close to Crimea after warning shots were fired at HMS Defender on Wednesday.

The British Type 45 destroyer sailed within the 12-mile limit of Crimea near Cape Fiolent in the Black Sea which Russia claims as its own territory but the West sees as international waters.

Here's another article about Russia, they also dropped bombs in front of the British ship and they don't care what country the ships are from. But joe crow has thing under control:

https://www.foxnews.com/world/russia-violent-warning-protect-sea-borders-intrusion

by **ReadyMom** Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:50 am

Russia warns US over hypersonic missiles in Europe, could lead to ‘inadvertent conflict’
https://www.foxnews.com/world/russia-warns-us-over-hypersonic-missiles-in-europe

The Russian Embassy in the U.S. did not mince words in a tweet late Monday warning Washington not to deploy hypersonic missiles in Europe.

by rick1 Tue Oct 05, 2021 5:15 am

Russia launches hypersonic missile from submarine, can travel 9 times the speed of sound and an estimated 620 miles.

If one of their subs is off our coast, it would only be seconds to hit D.C..

That's 6,840 miles per hour, hang on to your hats if your riding one of these.

https://thehill.com/policy/international/europe/575124-russia-says-it-launched-hypersonic-missile-from-submarine-for

by TRex2 Thu Oct 07, 2021 12:53 pm

Prophesy says that Russia and Iran (along with others) will attack Israel in the last days. Damascus will be destroyed, either before, or at the outset of that war. Britain, America, and Arabia will not participate in the attack, nor will we help Israel.

God, will intervene, so that everyone will see His hand.

I think the saga in the Black Sea is getting everything set up for those future battles.

by **ReadyMom** Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:00 pm

China vs Tiawan & Australia in one thread .... Russia vs Ukraine in this thread ... 'they' say when the USA falls, the world falls and it's looking bleaker & bleaker Neutral

Ukraine says Russia amassed 100K troops near border, Blinken raises 'real concerns' of invasion
https://www.foxnews.com/world/ukraine-russia-troops-border-blinken-concerns-invasion

by Drinkthekoolaid Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:24 pm

A lot of chatter and Intel leaks coming out in past 3 days about expected Russian invasion of Ukraine in the near future.

Allegedly up to 100,000 troops along multiple fronts from crimea, the Donbas and Belarus.

This could become an absolute cluster of a mess. Definitely keep tabs on the situation.

by rick1 Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:02 pm

Drinkthekoolaid wrote:A lot of chatter and Intel leaks coming out in past 3 days about expected Russian invasion of Ukraine in the near future.

Allegedly up to 100,000 troops along multiple fronts from crimea, the Donbas and Belarus.

This could become an absolute cluster of a mess. Definitely keep tabs on the situation.

Yep, a big mess. The Ukraine isn't a member of NATO either, so little help will be going their way and corn pop will say a little prayer for the Ukraine people.

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/russia-rejects-western-concerns-ukraine-smokescreen-81328108

by Drinkthekoolaid Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:11 pm

rick1 wrote:
Drinkthekoolaid wrote:A lot of chatter and Intel leaks coming out in past 3 days about expected Russian invasion of Ukraine in the near future.

Allegedly up to 100,000 troops along multiple fronts from crimea, the Donbas and Belarus.

This could become an absolute cluster of a mess. Definitely keep tabs on the situation.

Yep, a big mess. The Ukraine isn't a member of NATO either, so little help will be going their way and corn pop will say a little prayer for the Ukraine people.

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/russia-rejects-western-concerns-ukraine-smokescreen-81328108

They're been "nato friendly"

We have actual US troops in country. We have been arming and training them.

The EU is also pro Ukraine anti Russia (except when they want to buy their gas but that's another issue).

It has potential to get ugly and fast. Even if it stays as a regional conflict it could become extremely violent and deadly at lightning pace. These are 2 very powerful forces highly concentrated in a region.

This will not be like some 3rd world conflict we've been accustomed to seeing. It will have missiles, navies, drones, air support, special forces, electronic warfare, etc it will be ugly

by TRex2 Wed Nov 24, 2021 5:48 pm

Not any more.

https://www.quora.com/Does-the-USA-have-soldiers-stationed-in-Ukraine

ScamBuster Rick Cassano
Former Investigator / Military Veteran & ScamBuster.
Answered 1 year ago · Author has 11.2K answers and 11.6M answer views
Originally Answered: Is the US Army deployed in Ukraine?
NO. The U.S. Army’s 101st Airborne Division was deployed to Ukraine in May 2019 as part of the Joint Multinational Training Group-Ukraine (JMTG-U) mission. The deployment was for 9 months and ended around the first of February 2020.

by rick1 Wed Nov 24, 2021 5:55 pm

TRex2 wrote:Not any more.

https://www.quora.com/Does-the-USA-have-soldiers-stationed-in-Ukraine
ScamBuster Rick Cassano
Former Investigator / Military Veteran & ScamBuster.
Answered 1 year ago · Author has 11.2K answers and 11.6M answer views
Originally Answered: Is the US Army deployed in Ukraine?
NO. The U.S. Army’s 101st Airborne Division was deployed to Ukraine in May 2019 as part of the Joint Multinational Training Group-Ukraine (JMTG-U) mission. The deployment was for 9 months and ended around the first of February 2020.

I agree, but they still have advisors there and corn pop is supposed to send some more advisors and more equipment, not an army but still.

by Drinkthekoolaid Wed Nov 24, 2021 6:22 pm

https://youtu.be/5eCTZ1BNZlI

Excellent video. Worth 20 mins of your time. Explains the situation in great and easy to understand details. It's bad and going to get worse.

by Drinkthekoolaid Wed Nov 24, 2021 6:25 pm

TRex2 wrote:Not any more.

https://www.quora.com/Does-the-USA-have-soldiers-stationed-in-Ukraine
ScamBuster Rick Cassano
Former Investigator / Military Veteran & ScamBuster.
Answered 1 year ago · Author has 11.2K answers and 11.6M answer views
Originally Answered: Is the US Army deployed in Ukraine?
NO. The U.S. Army’s 101st Airborne Division was deployed to Ukraine in May 2019 as part of the Joint Multinational Training Group-Ukraine (JMTG-U) mission. The deployment was for 9 months and ended around the first of February 2020.

I bet my paycheck there are special forces (AKA Green berets) there right now. They are sometimes called "advisors" which I know that you know... just explaining for others

More training is planned
https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2021/09/16/army-gears-up-for-rapid-trident-exercise-in-ukraine/

by TRex2 Wed Nov 24, 2021 7:54 pm

Drinkthekoolaid wrote:...
I bet my paycheck there are special forces (AKA Green berets) there right now. They are sometimes called "advisors" which I know that you know... just explaining for others

You would probably win that bet.

More training is planned
https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2021/09/16/army-gears-up-for-rapid-trident-exercise-in-ukraine/

Thanks.

by Drinkthekoolaid Sat Nov 27, 2021 6:08 pm

https://youtu.be/Iy-nSUs2UWo

https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/russia-has-sortied-their-entire-nuclear-submarine-fleet

by rick1 Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:19 am

Russia scales up warhead production on its Zircon hypersonic nuclear missiles ahead of a possible invasion of Ukraine. I'm wondering what the west plans to do if Russia does invade Ukraine:

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/russia-ukraine-crimea-war/2021/11/27/id/1046401/?ns_mail_uid=ed113837-94a1-4b8d-8fab-a7f206fd5031&ns_mail_job=DM278631_11282021&s=acs&dkt_nbr=010502buzsmu

by Dave58 Sun Nov 28, 2021 11:04 am

I don't know what the west will do but I am pretty sure biden will start with this... CryingTantrum

by Drinkthekoolaid Sun Nov 28, 2021 1:00 pm

rick1 wrote:Russia scales up warhead production on its Zircon hypersonic nuclear missiles ahead of a possible invasion of Ukraine. I'm wondering what the west plans to do if Russia does invade Ukraine:

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/russia-ukraine-crimea-war/2021/11/27/id/1046401/?ns_mail_uid=ed113837-94a1-4b8d-8fab-a7f206fd5031&ns_mail_job=DM278631_11282021&s=acs&dkt_nbr=010502buzsmu

I have really mixed thoughts on this.

Part of me wants to do nothing. I want no part of another conflict or war. Russia should be Europe's problem. We have way too many things to worry about.

But I'm also pragmatic and I realize nothing happens in a vacuum. Russia moving on Ukraine is a green light for china moving on Taiwan. Gee this sounds eerily similar to 1938 pre WW2.

by TRex2 Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:21 pm

As I told my wife (and she wasn't too happy to hear it), when things begin to happen, they will fall like dominoes.

by Dave58 Sat Dec 04, 2021 11:41 am

The plot thickens

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-planning-massive-military-offensive-against-ukraine-involving-175000-troops-us-intelligence-warns/ar-AARrLIF

by TRex2 Sat Dec 04, 2021 1:32 pm

Dave58 wrote:The plot thickens

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-planning-massive-military-offensive-against-ukraine-involving-175000-troops-us-intelligence-warns/ar-AARrLIF

If you read the article. it says "potentially" 175,000 troops. It also says Moscow is shuffling them around, deliberately trying to make it difficult to track who is going where.

There are only two reasons to engage in this (expensive) behavior:
1. Preparations to go to war.
2. Test the ability of our intelligence to track what they are doing.

The second one is a bit self defeating, as it gives our intelligence practice at doing exactly what they would be trying to assess, which makes their job all the harder. Hence, the first one is the more likely.

The good news is, increasing the number at the border is still a good intel indicator that we can watch for.

by dmwalsh568 Fri Dec 10, 2021 2:37 pm

Another provocation or is the balloon about to go up?

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1534007/putin-news-kerch-strait-blocked-off-war-ukraine-vessel-stalked-russian-navy-crimea

World holds its breath! Putin starts countdown to war as major naval strait blocked off

The Kerch Strait, a major shipping channel near the Crimean peninsula, has reportedly been blocked off to all civilian vessels. It comes after the Russian navy reported seeing a Ukrainian ship in the vicinity and confirmed it is monitoring the movements.

Not seeing this being picked up by other media outlets, at least not ones that aren't directly quoting the original article....

But official US embassy in Kyiv twitter account is talking about this:

https://mobile.twitter.com/USEmbassyKyiv/status/1469290333536194566

Just wish I knew more about the geography of the area, so I could know what this marine tracking site's data means:

https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:36.4/centery:45.3/zoom:11

Could be an interesting weekend depending on how this unfolds.

by TRex2 Fri Dec 10, 2021 6:40 pm

dmwalsh568 wrote:Another provocation or is the balloon about to go up?
...

Another provocation.
The straight, while important to a couple of cities (especially Mariupol) it isn't critical.

I was waiting from him to take Mariupol back in '14 and '15 when things wound down.

I still suspect he will take it.
Anything past Mariupol will be worth watching, for escalations.

by rick1 Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:31 am

They are estimating that Russia will have 175,000 troops on their eastern front in the next few months.

The G7 has warned Russia of massive consequences if Ukraine is attacked.

Russia says the west has Russophobia, they must have some demonrats in Russia too:

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/g7-warning-russia-ukraine/2021/12/12/id/1048295/?ns_mail_uid=ed113837-94a1-4b8d-8fab-a7f206fd5031&ns_mail_job=DM282427_12122021&s=acs&dkt_nbr=010504y89ume

by Dave58 Sun Dec 12, 2021 10:17 am

rick1 wrote:They are estimating that Russia will have 175,000 troops on their eastern front in the next few months.

The G7 has warned Russia of massive consequences if Ukraine is attacked.

Russia says the west has Russophobia, they must have some demonrats in Russia too:

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/g7-warning-russia-ukraine/2021/12/12/id/1048295/?ns_mail_uid=ed113837-94a1-4b8d-8fab-a7f206fd5031&ns_mail_job=DM282427_12122021&s=acs&dkt_nbr=010504y89ume

There must be some Russian in the democrats here...........

by rick1 Sun Dec 12, 2021 10:29 am

Dave58 wrote:
rick1 wrote:They are estimating that Russia will have 175,000 troops on their eastern front in the next few months.

The G7 has warned Russia of massive consequences if Ukraine is attacked.

Russia says the west has Russophobia, they must have some demonrats in Russia too:

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/g7-warning-russia-ukraine/2021/12/12/id/1048295/?ns_mail_uid=ed113837-94a1-4b8d-8fab-a7f206fd5031&ns_mail_job=DM282427_12122021&s=acs&dkt_nbr=010504y89ume

There must be some Russian in the democrats here...........

by TRex2 Sun Dec 12, 2021 1:42 pm

rick1 wrote:...
Russia says the west has Russophobia, they must have some demonrats in Russia too:
...

I always just assumed Democrats did one weekend a month, and two weeks in the summer, in Bolshevik summer camp. (Think: Guard and Reserve)

by Drinkthekoolaid Fri Dec 17, 2021 10:47 pm

I read somewhere that nato has advised Ukraine that at some point in the future they will be allowed to join.

I hope everyone realizes what that means.

No way will Russia allow that to happen. They will attack Ukraine before that day is allowed to arrive. IMO this all but sealed an imminent attack as near certainty. This is not good.

by TRex2 Mon Dec 20, 2021 4:39 am

TRex2 wrote:
dmwalsh568 wrote:Another provocation or is the balloon about to go up?
...
Another provocation.
The straight, while important to a couple of cities (especially Mariupol) it isn't critical.
I was waiting from him to take Mariupol back in '14 and '15 when things wound down.
I still suspect he will take it.
Anything past Mariupol will be worth watching, for escalations.

This article is pretty thorough, in its laying out the current situation in Ukraine.
https://www.thecipherbrief.com/column/fine-print/what-success-looks-like-for-now-in-ukraine
Yeah the title is click bait, since the article only devotes one sentence, at the end, to that topic. But it is an excellent analysis of how we got here and a good assessment of what certain things in play really mean.

by dmwalsh568 Mon Dec 20, 2021 7:46 am

Drinkthekoolaid wrote:I read somewhere that nato has advised Ukraine that at some point in the future they will be allowed to join.

I hope everyone realizes what that means.

No way will Russia allow that to happen. They will attack Ukraine before that day is allowed to arrive. IMO this all but sealed an imminent attack as near certainty. This is not good.

Maybe it's just my cynicism showing, but unless someone can point to who said that NATO has promised to invite Ukraine to join, I'm willing to bet the idea was planted by Russia so they have a "legitimate" excuse to invade Ukraine - to stop something that wasn't going to happen and wouldn't be a threat even if it did....

by Drinkthekoolaid Mon Dec 20, 2021 1:00 pm

dmwalsh568 wrote:
Drinkthekoolaid wrote:I read somewhere that nato has advised Ukraine that at some point in the future they will be allowed to join.

I hope everyone realizes what that means.

No way will Russia allow that to happen. They will attack Ukraine before that day is allowed to arrive. IMO this all but sealed an imminent attack as near certainty. This is not good.

Maybe it's just my cynicism showing, but unless someone can point to who said that NATO has promised to invite Ukraine to join, I'm willing to bet the idea was planted by Russia so they have a "legitimate" excuse to invade Ukraine - to stop something that wasn't going to happen and wouldn't be a threat even if it did....

I get what you're saying.

But IMO our media is worthless.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukrainian-president-zelenskiy-holding-talks-with-biden-adviser-says-2021-12-09/

"President Biden said very clearly that the decision on Ukraine's accession to NATO is the decision of the Ukrainian people only, this is a sovereign and independent Ukrainian state," he said. "And it depends on Ukraine and NATO members."

That's the president's own words in like 10 days ago.

There's already so much rhetoric or implied "pathway to nato entry" speculation that Russia will and rightly should read the tea leaves and make their own conclusions.

Even if Biden himself comes out and says unequivocally "Ukraine will not enter nato" if you were Russia would you believe it? I wouldn't. We have lost all international credibility. We can't even stand by our own citizens and allies why would other intentional parents take us at our word?

Our actions (supplying Ukraine with arms and training and continual nato rhetoric) are being viewed and analyzed by Russian intelligence as our likely intent to get Ukraine into nato. Regardless what we say they are analyzing our actions too.

I'm not a Russia apologist at all. But I would much rather cooperate with them. We need them as allies against china. We have far more in common with Russia than we do china. China is our real enemy. Russia just wants to be the biggest kid in their sandbox.

Just my .02 cents take it or leave it

by TRex2 Mon Dec 20, 2021 2:37 pm

Drinkthekoolaid wrote:...
I'm not a Russia apologist at all. But I would much rather cooperate with them. We need them as allies against china. We have far more in common with Russia than we do china. China is our real enemy. Russia just wants to be the biggest kid in their sandbox.

Just my .02 cents take it or leave it

Russia will never, never, be our ally, against China. They are China's ally against us. And they are not much more than opportunistic feeders (who will prey on a weak Ukraine) mixed with a bit of paranoia (might invade Ukraine to keep it out of NATO).

Prophesy says their alliance with Iran will cause them to invade Syria and Lebanon, in an effort to assist Iran with the removal of Israel, and that they feel that they were tricked or forced into doing it. (Of course, it doesn't say when...)

Ezekiel 38 says God will
"I will turn you about and put hooks into your jaws, and I will bring you out, and all your army,"

It lists 4 or 5 other nations that will be with them, the most prominent today is Iran.

by Dave58 Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:22 am

I would watch for things to start on X-Mas eve

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-warns-he-s-ready-to-use-military-to-counter-nato-challenge/ar-AAS18W7

by Drinkthekoolaid Tue Dec 21, 2021 1:29 pm

Dave58 wrote:I would watch for things to start on X-Mas eve

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-warns-he-s-ready-to-use-military-to-counter-nato-challenge/ar-AAS18W7

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-citizens-now-being-prepped-164259149.html

Wouldn't surprise me to see Russia deploy missiles to Venezuela or Cuba in a tit for tat. Technically that would be a military response. Just because he mentions a military response doesn't mean it has to be a kinetic attack, it could be posturing and positioning.

by rick1 Tue Dec 21, 2021 1:47 pm

Drinkthekoolaid wrote:
Dave58 wrote:I would watch for things to start on X-Mas eve

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-warns-he-s-ready-to-use-military-to-counter-nato-challenge/ar-AAS18W7

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-citizens-now-being-prepped-164259149.html

Wouldn't surprise me to see Russia deploy missiles to Venezuela or Cuba in a tit for tat. Technically that would be a military response. Just because he mentions a military response doesn't mean it has to be a kinetic attack, it could be posturing and positioning.

If Putin does that, we'll see if corn pop has the cahonas that JFK had. Shocked

But my bet is corn pop will retreat to his cave.

by Dave58 Tue Dec 21, 2021 1:52 pm

rick1 wrote:
Drinkthekoolaid wrote:
Dave58 wrote:I would watch for things to start on X-Mas eve

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-warns-he-s-ready-to-use-military-to-counter-nato-challenge/ar-AAS18W7

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-citizens-now-being-prepped-164259149.html

Wouldn't surprise me to see Russia deploy missiles to Venezuela or Cuba in a tit for tat. Technically that would be a military response. Just because he mentions a military response doesn't mean it has to be a kinetic attack, it could be posturing and positioning.

If Putin does that, we'll see if corn pop has the cahonas that JFK had. But my bet is corn pop will retreat to his cave.

Biden will leave us to hang or order us to get another booster Laugh Animated

sorry I couldn't resist

by TRex2 Tue Dec 21, 2021 2:20 pm

Drinkthekoolaid wrote:...
Wouldn't surprise me to see Russia deploy missiles to Venezuela or Cuba in a tit for tat. Technically that would be a military response. Just because he mentions a military response doesn't mean it has to be a kinetic attack, it could be posturing and positioning.

And if some stuff I read a few months back (and neglected to keep) is accurate, the missile bases are already built.

rick1 wrote:If Putin does that, we'll see if corn pop has the cahonas that JFK had. But my bet is corn pop will retreat to his cave.

I wouldn't bet against that.

by Drinkthekoolaid Tue Dec 21, 2021 3:42 pm

TRex2 wrote:
Drinkthekoolaid wrote:...
Wouldn't surprise me to see Russia deploy missiles to Venezuela or Cuba in a tit for tat. Technically that would be a military response. Just because he mentions a military response doesn't mean it has to be a kinetic attack, it could be posturing and positioning.
And if some stuff I read a few months back (and neglected to keep) is accurate, the missile bases are already built.

rick1 wrote:If Putin does that, we'll see if corn pop has the cahonas that JFK had. But my bet is corn pop will retreat to his cave.
I wouldn't bet against that.

Very interesting indeed

by Dave58 Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:50 am

This is worrisome

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/vladimir-putin-warns-nato-everyone-25759453

by rick1 Wed Dec 22, 2021 10:22 am

Dave58 wrote:This is worrisome

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/vladimir-putin-warns-nato-everyone-25759453

I think this is more fear mongering then anything else. Just like if the U.S./EU put missiles in Ukraine, I guess Putin doesn't believe missiles are already nearby, Black Sea and the Mediterranean Sea and under water.

by TRex2 Fri Dec 24, 2021 6:51 pm

rick1 wrote:
Dave58 wrote:This is worrisome

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/vladimir-putin-warns-nato-everyone-25759453

I think this is more fear mongering then anything else. Just like if the U.S./EU put missiles in Ukraine, I guess Putin doesn't believe missiles are already nearby, Black Sea and the Mediterranean Sea and under water.

There is a lot of fear mongering done by governments. Kinda like junior high school gangs, facing off.

An article on DEFCON website (that may originally from Wash.Post) says, basically, that Putin wants us to end all US and Nato operations in former soviet block countries. Maybe someone should get some stones and tell him that we will consider his request as soon as all Marxist operations in the Western Hemisphere have ceased.

Hmmm, I think someone put some hallucinogenics in my coffee...

by Dave58 Sun Feb 13, 2022 11:05 am

https://www.wsj.com/articles/russians-have-already-started-hybrid-war-with-bomb-threats-cyberattacks-ukraine-says-11644748413

by rick1 Sun Feb 13, 2022 12:38 pm

Dave58 wrote:https://www.wsj.com/articles/russians-have-already-started-hybrid-war-with-bomb-threats-cyberattacks-ukraine-says-11644748413

Once Russia takes Ukraine's grid down, the war games will begin.

by Drinkthekoolaid Sun Feb 13, 2022 2:00 pm

rick1 wrote:
Dave58 wrote:https://www.wsj.com/articles/russians-have-already-started-hybrid-war-with-bomb-threats-cyberattacks-ukraine-says-11644748413

Once Russia takes Ukraine's grid down, the war games will begin.

Absolutely. As soon as you hear of internet outages, cell networks going down, grid down etc it's game over for Ukraine

by TRex2 Sun Feb 13, 2022 3:33 pm

Drinkthekoolaid wrote:
rick1 wrote:
Dave58 wrote:https://www.wsj.com/articles/russians-have-already-started-hybrid-war-with-bomb-threats-cyberattacks-ukraine-says-11644748413
Once Russia takes Ukraine's grid down, the war games will begin.
Absolutely. As soon as you hear of internet outages, cell networks going down, grid down etc it's game over for Ukraine

My system shows the above link behind a pay wall, but this one isn't:
https://fa.news/articles/u_s_issues_broad_national_warning_on_potential_russia_cyberattacks-121396/

The U.S. cyber defense agency issued a broad national warning Friday night that Russia's potential invasion of Ukraine could spill into hacks against American computer networks.

The advisory issued by the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency said it was not responding to any specific threats, but acting as a general precaution that conflict with Russia could lead to cyberattacks.

While there are not currently any credible threats to the U.S. homeland, we are mindful of the potential for Russia to consider escalating its actions in ways that could affect others outside of Ukraine, it reads.

It warned that every organization in the United States is at risk from cyber threats that can disrupt essential services and potentially cause harm to public safety, because of the broad vulnerability of many U.S. computer networks to hackers.

Brace yourselves, the ride could get bumpy.

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